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Author Topic:   Could bio-design and rapid geo-column be introduced in science courses?
John
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Message 57 of 83 (12757)
07-04-2002 11:55 AM
Reply to: Message 56 by Tranquility Base
07-03-2002 11:23 PM


[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tranquility Base:
[b]Percy
Hundreds of thousands of scientists would be tempted to put in print that their evidence demonstrates a higher intelligence. [/QUOTE]
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TB: You can't talk for hundreds of thousands of scientists.
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They know it will cut the chances of the acceptance of the paper. Publish or perish is a fact for everybody.
If anyone had a good demonstration of a higher intelligence they'd make a huge name for themselves-- riches, women, fame.
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John
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Message 67 of 83 (12793)
07-04-2002 9:42 PM
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07-04-2002 8:31 PM


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I never said the evidence fro a higher intelligence was concusive, just that it is a possibility and is evident to many.
I don't ask for conclusive, just good and can't find even that.
That it is possible doesn't mean anything unless there is evidence to back it up, and 'evident to many' means even less.
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John
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Message 70 of 83 (12801)
07-04-2002 11:44 PM
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07-04-2002 10:55 PM


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Originally posted by Tranquility Base:
I think the evidence is good to excellent
I realize that you do, but you aren't sharing any of that good evidence with us.
Are you founding some sort of Mystery Cult?
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John
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Message 73 of 83 (12827)
07-05-2002 11:01 AM
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07-05-2002 1:08 AM


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Originally posted by Tranquility Base:
When I've got time I'll outline some of Behe's arguements. He analyses cellular systems and notes that one can't even conceive how they could work without a minmal subset of elements.

I am familiar with some of Behe's work, but please post an example which interests you.
My impression of Behe? He is very good at killing straw men.
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John
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Message 75 of 83 (12835)
07-05-2002 12:22 PM
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07-04-2002 8:35 PM


quote:
Originally posted by Tranquility Base:
Edge
You simply can't image a catastrophic flood. The global flood occurred in stages. It was global by the end of it. We use the same data you use to show that there were surges!

But TB.... you've only got a year!!!!
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John
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Message 77 of 83 (12847)
07-05-2002 2:23 PM
Reply to: Message 76 by Joe Meert
07-05-2002 1:47 PM


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Originally posted by Joe Meert:

JM: Well, you know that many creationists now 'stretch' the flood to much more than a year (all extra-bilical of course!).

Well, if you stretch the flood long enough-- say three or four billion years-- couldn't you come up with the mainstream geological model? I mean, pretty much the whole world has been underwater at some point or other, just not all at the same time.
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John
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Message 82 of 83 (15592)
08-17-2002 11:23 PM
Reply to: Message 79 by halcyonwaters
08-17-2002 7:47 PM


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Originally posted by halcyonwaters:
How familiar?
Better than beginner, but not much.
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Pick the one you are the most familiar with, and I'll try to outline his argument for you.
Lets just start at the flagella.
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