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Is eugenics the logical result of Darwinism?

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Message 187 of 231 (214226)
06-04-2005 3:42 PM 		Reply to: Message 186 by Trixie
06-04-2005 3:26 PM

Re: Exactly, Faith!!! You got it in one!
Well, it's nice to be in agreement for a change, but I'm afraid I don't think the ToE is neutral. That's just the main argument that has been made here against my view. I think it generates exactly the genetic engineering ideas and ethics the first few generations thought it did, which is simply covered over by subsequent emphases on a compassionate ethic. This ethic and the ToE are in perpetual tension because they are inherently mutually contradictory. That's been my view all along. Ideas about human origins and nature can't possibly be neutral.
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06-05-2005 7:14 AM 		Reply to: Message 192 by Trixie
06-04-2005 4:19 PM

Re: Exactly, Faith!!! You got it in one!
Faith, I do understand where you're coming from, but I think you're allowing your personal bias against the TOE to stop you seeing just what the TOE is.
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I guess I can answer back then that I think YOU are allowing YOUR personal bias FOR the ToE to stop you from seeing just what the ToE is, and the completely logical derivation of the ideas the eugenics people got from it.
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What happens here is that my opponents deal with my arguments with nothing but denial and jelly and call it rebuttal. It can be amusing up to a point.
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06-05-2005 9:59 AM 		Reply to: Message 194 by crashfrog
06-05-2005 9:37 AM

I've answered all the "positive ethics" rebuttals far as I know. Perhaps you missed the answers.
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06-05-2005 10:01 AM 		Reply to: Message 191 by Trixie
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Re: Exactly, Faith!!! You got it in one!
It doesn't matter what some misguided unfortunates think it means,
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These "misguided unfortunates" were the intelligentsia of their day, dear. Nice try though.
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