Spiritual vs. physical

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Originally posted by hiddenexit77:
And furthermore, what about art in all its forms? Poetry, visual art, music, all those indescribably wonderful things? How do they fit in? Is it materialistic to be an avid music listener, for instance?

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Woah sorry i haven't read the hole thread yet but this statement as a musician didn't compute at all. Even when I didn't want to believe or even to much think about God, as a musician though I KNEW there was a spiritual side. I'm also married to a woman who is an exellent artist of all mediums who without any knowledge of God other than 2 or 3 scattered bible stories KNEW there was a spiritual. This is where i have a hard time with these logic debates. As a person who "creates" things i know that beauty does not create itself. Someone creates it. So to me logically there to music/art in itself or the love there of, is not materialistic, and would alone prove (to me) the existance of the spiritual. (imo)------------------
saved by grace

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See.... easy when you define all the terms to suit your ends and gloss over the messy bits.

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Back the truck up here. Beeping and all. beep beep beep. Definitions of words can never be perfect. This use of the part of the definition you recognize (suits a specific end)and glossing over the messy bits is a huge practice.
Language isn't perfect, it has flaws every language has vaugue words and times when the same word can be used to mean two drastically different things. Therefore our method of communication still leaves some guesswork!
There are a ton of words used around here that I'm starting to think we all have our own different definitions of. Most of those definitions to meet our own ends with a whole lot of gloss on the messy parts. So is it fair to single out one person for this?------------------
saved by grace

Point taken. I guess what i meant in a quick line is "definitions of words are continually changing and it would not seem towards making them clearer, but more vaugue and tolerant, and essentially less useful.
Which i think you agreed with me on. my last statement about singling anybody out was not necessary, I stand corrected.------------------
saved by grace