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Message 15 of 102 (281162)
01-24-2006 9:24 AM

Reply to: Message 1 by pianoprincess*
01-23-2006 11:01 PM

Some other threads

Here are some other threads on thermodynamics and evolution:

Thermodynamics
Observations of Great Debate - ID and thermodynamics
Breaking Laws of Thermodynamics
Thermodynamics, Abiogenesis and Evolution
Thermodynamics and Cosmology for MPW
A Question about Evolution (2nd Law of Thermodynamics)
Is evolution the only thing to contradict the Second law of Thermodynamics?
Evolution vs. Thermodynamics

Enjoy your reading.

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Message 67 of 102 (283445)
02-02-2006 1:56 PM

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02-02-2006 12:04 PM

Re: Evos Ignorance must be to them sublime

That is the biggest load of complicated balloney I have ever heard.

If you enjoy a good slice of baloney, I suggest you browse through some of the earlier postings by Evopeach.

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Message 68 of 102 (283446)
02-02-2006 2:06 PM

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02-02-2006 11:45 AM

Re: Evos Ignorance must be to them sublime

Evopeach writes:

There are no local negentropy events anywhere which are not locally financed or driven by companion directly coupled energy/heat/work flows which create entropy increases in their operation far exceeding the negentropy they finance.

ROTFL

There are negentropy events occurring all the time. Thermodynamics is a statistical theory. The increase in entropy is a statistical phenomenon. It simply says that, on the average, entropy increases. There can be localized random events that reduce entropy.

In the beginning there were no metabolic, photosynthetic or other processes available to convert raw solar energy into a form suitable for overcoming the free energy deficit associated with the most simplistic formation of amino acids from monomers, polymers from monomeres, proteins,enzymes, DNA etc.

This is parody, right? Surely you don't believe such nonsense.

Hurricane Katrina, last summer, was an example of what natural non-biological processes can produce.

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Message 71 of 102 (283451)
02-02-2006 2:41 PM

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02-02-2006 2:25 PM

Re: Evos Ignorance must be to them sublime

Unfortunately for you every reaction of formation beyond diamers to monomers requires energy otherwise it doesn't go.

There was a lot of volcanic energy available on the young earth.

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