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foxjoe 
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Message 157 of 177 (362236)
11-06-2006 7:43 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by PurpleYouko
08-11-2006 12:48 PM


Re: Welcome to EvC
PurpleYouKo said:
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Any Scientist, atheist or theist, is well aware of the fact that science has absolutely nothing to say about God whatsoever. You are right that we cannot disprove him and that the theist cannot prove him.
Actually you are incorrect.
Science says that if God is irriduciply complex, it is necessary that God can't exist. (depends on your concept of God). If you believe what the cargo cults believe that God is a man that brought cargo and shipped it out (as those cults are in Indonesia), then God does exists. Its just still man made.
Edited by foxjoe, : No reason given.

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foxjoe 
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Message 159 of 177 (362262)
11-06-2006 8:56 PM
Reply to: Message 158 by nwr
11-06-2006 8:15 PM


Re: Welcome to EvC
Yes, I realize it wasn't a scientific term. However after reading "the God delusion" I would have to say that when we speak of scientific philosophy, or scientifically we know that God only exists in the minds of the believers (as a concept, like a circle only exists as a concept).
In fact, as many God's exists as their are believers of IT, if you think about it with purity. Because each molecule in each brain is differe, there can be no true agreement on a concept of God within the the bounds of Christianity, or any other nity. This is plainly demonstrated through the multiplicated denominations, sects, non-denominations in the USA alone.
Just something to think about.

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foxjoe 
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Message 161 of 177 (362500)
11-07-2006 7:47 PM
Reply to: Message 160 by PurpleYouko
11-07-2006 8:59 AM


Re: Welcome to EvC
Excuse me, but science is has a basis in Logic. Can God create a rock he can't life, are logical conundrums. And based on these philosophies, science\logic\ and philosphy says simply that this particular type of God cannot exist.
So back to reality, God only exists in the thoughts of humans, and maybe other lifeforms that haven't yet been seen.
I mean if you can build a spaceship, you can surely have a concept of God. But we americans don't believe in God with 100% certainty even if we do believe. However some Iraqians do demonstrate their belief with 100% certainty. Even as they are wrong.
thoughts?

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foxjoe 
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Message 163 of 177 (362502)
11-07-2006 7:51 PM
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11-07-2006 7:47 PM


Re: Welcome to EvC
You don't need to test God's non-existense. It is demonstrated every day as many millions of African children die each year of many different afflictions.
So proving the absense of a concept, is not too difficult. It just depends on how you define the concept.
A really good question would be, do you wish to believe in or worship a God that allows such abominations to exist EVERY DAY.
So really where are we now?

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