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sidelined
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Message 35 of 177 (339272)
08-11-2006 3:21 PM
Reply to: Message 33 by robinrohan
08-11-2006 2:55 PM


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robinrohan
One of the things he could do is negate his own omniscience since he can do anything.
It seems to fall within the mutually exclusive realm of such questions as "What happens when an irresistable force meets an immovable object"
The existence of one negates the existence of another since the definitions of each require the abscence of the other. This is an example of a wrong question or rather an illegitimate question.

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Message 116 of 177 (339530)
08-12-2006 12:09 PM
Reply to: Message 114 by Ender
08-12-2006 11:16 AM


Questions question questions
Ender
Can the following statment be proven false:
God exists.
Wel let us examine this.
First we need to give some operational boundaries to God in relation to God's existence and ask ourselves if there is someway in which the law of noncontradiction applies.
The law of noncontradiction requires that a thing cannot both be and not-be simultaneously. So we are asking if God can both exist and not exist at the same time.
Two parallel considerations arise from this that must be determined {or at least conceded} by those debating the case. First What does it mean to say something exists? Second what does it mean to say something occurs simultaneously?
If ,as some contend, {though where their information arrives from is questionable} God "exists" seperately from us then we need further pursue what is meant by this existence of God and how we may justify it.How does God interact with "our" existence when ,at the same time, it is asserted that he does not since He exists seperately as mentioned.
As to the question of simultaneous occurence we also find that God is given {by virtue of his omnipotence} the ability to be "outside of time" {do not ask me how this is arrived at} we find the same consideration as with existence. How does God participate in an event occuring within a spacetime to which he is defined as being outside of ?
I will leave it open to the forum to argue these considerations and see what we arrive at.

Dear Mrs Chown, Ignore your son's attempts to teach you physics. Physics isn't the most important thing. Love is.
Best wishes, Richard Feynman.

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