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Junior Member (Idle past 5055 days) Posts: 18 From: Los Angeles,California,USA Joined: |
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ArchArchitect Member (Idle past 6209 days) Posts: 58 From: Pasadena, CA Joined: |
It is a fact that fossils near volcanic areas are older than the fossils that are found in canyons.
It is a fact that heat would speed up the decay of Carbon14. I never said that there were no lava marks on the fossils. I also never said that it was basic. And how should I know why the scientists don't plug them in? Oh...maybe it's because it would make no use of it. You even quoted me on it. "It would be near impossible to determine the thermal conditions...." ~The point is that Carbon Dating is not a reliable source for determing the age of a fossil/object.
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ArchArchitect Member (Idle past 6209 days) Posts: 58 From: Pasadena, CA Joined: |
This is a very useful link regarding Carbon Dating. Check it out..
Doesn’t Carbon-14 Dating Disprove the Bible?
| Answers in Genesis
I have not read it all yet and I don't think it talks about the thermal property of Carbon14 - or at least not yet, as far as I have gotten. And my old science teacher taught us about the thermal property of Carbon14.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1495 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
It is a fact that fossils near volcanic areas are older than the fossils that are found in canyons. It is a fact that heat would speed up the decay of Carbon14. No, it's not. These are just things you made up. These aren't facts.
I also never said that it was basic. What? No, this is you, not ten minutes ago:
quote: I don't understand how we're going to have a civil, intelligent debate if you won't even tell the truth about what you said. If you're not going to be honest, how can we debate?
~The point is that Carbon Dating is not a reliable source for determing the age of a fossil/object. According to you. The problem is, you appear to be wrong in nearly every regard, and dishonest to boot.
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 763 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined:
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A basic property of Carbon14 is that under extreme heat, it decays even faster, Absolutely unsupported bullshit. And nonsense. High-school physics stuff, at that - if not 8th-grade General Science. Chemical reactions vary their rates with heat. Nuclear reactions don't, at least in the range of temperatures available on a planet. Heat rhenium up enough to strip all its electrons, and yeah, beta decay gets faster. But that's interior-of-stars stuff, with no relevance at all to carbon dating.
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ArchArchitect Member (Idle past 6209 days) Posts: 58 From: Pasadena, CA Joined: |
I said that the PROPERTY is basic. Not that the process is basic. How can the property be basic?! You even know that.
What makes you think that I made these things up. If the guy on this same page said the same thing, wo which Fallacycop replied to?
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ArchArchitect Member (Idle past 6209 days) Posts: 58 From: Pasadena, CA Joined: |
Sir, are you suggesting that they are teaching us 'bullshit' is our high schools?
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 763 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined:
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Not suggesting, asserting. If you were taught that, you were fed bullshit.
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ArchArchitect Member (Idle past 6209 days) Posts: 58 From: Pasadena, CA Joined: |
sorry crashfrog..I had a type-o in my previous message. I meant, "how can the process be basic" not property.
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ArchArchitect Member (Idle past 6209 days) Posts: 58 From: Pasadena, CA Joined: |
THEN ENLIGHTEN ME
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1495 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined:
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I said that the PROPERTY is basic. Not that the process is basic. How can the property be basic?! You even know that. Man, the dishonesty just never ends with you, does it?
What makes you think that I made these things up. I looked in authoritative sources on radioactive decay. For instance, the equations that describe radioactive decay rate: have no term for temperature. Isn't that significant? Wouldn't the physicists who developed these models based on decay experiments rather quickly discern that temperature was a factor, and include that in the model? Since they didn't, what evidence do you have that the rates do vary? How is it that you could possibly think you're privy to some kind of "well-known fact" that they're teaching in high school but Ph.D. physicists don't even know? That should have been your first clue that you had been fed a line of bullshit. But, look. Radioactive decay happens at the subatomic level, the level of the atomic nucleus - and there's no such thing as temperature at that level. So how could temperature have an effect? (If you don't understand what I'm talking about then you need to learn about the Kinetic Theory of Gases, which really is basic.)
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ArchArchitect Member (Idle past 6209 days) Posts: 58 From: Pasadena, CA Joined: |
Didn't you read the message after that? I said that there was a type=o. I said that I meant to type,
"I said that the PROPERTY is basic. Not that the process is basic. How can the PROCESS be basic?! You even know that."
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ArchArchitect Member (Idle past 6209 days) Posts: 58 From: Pasadena, CA Joined: |
Alright then, give me the link to that "authorative source" of yours. I'll go check it out.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1495 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined:
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Sir, are you suggesting that they are teaching us 'bullshit' is our high schools? Sir, are you suggesting that they are teaching us 'bullshit' is our high schools?
Your high school, maybe. I was never taught that radioactive decay rates were variable with temperature. It's time for you to find this information in a legitimate scientific source, or acknowledge that you're wrong. That you maybe remember your science teacher telling you isn't such a source. Either he was wrong, or you don't remember correctly. (Or it never happened and you have some problems with being truthful.)
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Cthulhu Member (Idle past 5880 days) Posts: 273 From: Roe Dyelin Joined: |
No. On account of fossils being made of rock, which is not Carbon.
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ArchArchitect Member (Idle past 6209 days) Posts: 58 From: Pasadena, CA Joined: |
Only a lowlife would make something up on this forum. I am going by what my teacher told me. Now what is the link to that authorative source?
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