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Author Topic:   Are thoughts transcendant?
Jon
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Message 6 of 142 (423430)
09-22-2007 2:09 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by Phat
09-21-2007 10:06 PM


Re: Symbolism
...words are just symbols rather than the thing they represent itself.
Well, of course. But isn't that rather irrelevant?
So....what do you mean by "transcends...?
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Dictionary.com
tran·scend /trænsnd/
-verb (used with object)
1. to rise above or go beyond; overpass; exceed: to transcend the limits of thought; kindness transcends courtesy.
Jon

In considering the Origin of Species, it is quite conceivable that a naturalist... might come to the conclusion that each species had not been independently created, but had descended, like varieties, from other species. - Charles Darwin On the Origin of Species
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En el mundo hay multitud de idiomas, y cada uno tiene su propio significado. - I Corintios 14:10
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A devout people with its back to the wall can be pushed deeper and deeper into hardening religious nativism, in the end even preferring national suicide to religious compromise. - Colin Wells Sailing from Byzantium

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Jon
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Message 8 of 142 (423436)
09-22-2007 2:21 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Hyroglyphx
09-21-2007 3:57 PM


Is the mind and the brain different? Sure, they are intimately connected. But is it possible that where the brain dies, the mind transcends?
So, do thoughts transcend the mind? Well, I like to think of the brain as the physical matter that exists in the skull... that slushy substance up there. The mind, on the other hand, I see as the workings of that brain, those shootings and zaps that move through, which aren't necessarily physical or permanent, nor entirely comprehensible or graspable. I see the mind as a collection of these things. Think of the leg being the physical brain, and running being the mind.
Does this make the thoughts/mind transcendent? Well, not any more than exercise is transcendent to leg. It really all boils down to whether you are willing to accept that there is an ultimate physical reality behind everything, or if you think there is something higher in the mind. Until we have enough evidence to tell us whether it is all physical or not, you can sort of understand things how you want. However, I think it's safe to notice that all discoveries we've made in the realm of science show us more and more that everything boils down to 'simple' physical interactions... if we are to call the quantum world 'simple'.
Anyway... that's just my two cents. Nice question to ponder, but I don't know what meaning it ultimately has.
Jon

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