ikabod: so rocks are independant of god ..ok so which can first god or rocks ...
TONY: Already answered this. God created matter out of his energy, and created what we think of as "the natural" process the systems of weather changes, etc. that can form rocks.
Example: God does not create babies, for he created the system "processes" what will do it for him. God does not create snowflakes, just the weather system processes that form them themselves. So it is with most things like rocks. Once the "machinery" for the process was in place the action became automatic, functioning based on the designed parameters of the system (like carbon cycle, water cycle, etc.)
These process system cycles are not really natural. They needed to be setup, designed, started from scratch, that is provable. Matter is not natural and needed to be created, which rocks are made of.
So if you go deep enough, rocks are the product of design in some way or another. Just not directly into a rock in itself.
I hope this answers the question now!!!!