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Topic: Does the Book of Mormon contradict the Bible?
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ochaye
Member (Idle past 5268 days) Posts: 307 Joined: 03-08-2009
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Re: Contradiction 3: Qualifications for Priesthood
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This verse, and the verses surrounding it, is speaking of who is to guard the Ark of the Covenant, not a general qualification for priesthood.
Did the Israelites have any other priesthood?
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hooah212002
Member (Idle past 831 days) Posts: 3193 Joined: 08-12-2009
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Message 62 of 352 (521614)
08-28-2009 9:12 AM
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Reply to: Message 61 by ochaye
08-28-2009 9:03 AM
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Re: Contradiction 3: Qualifications for Priesthood
You seem to be pulling something out of that verse that isn't necessarily there. Are you inferring that since Levites were made priests to guard the ark because moses only wanted priests guarding it, that this must be the case for the rest of Isreal priesthood?
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ochaye
Member (Idle past 5268 days) Posts: 307 Joined: 03-08-2009
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Re: Contradiction 3: Qualifications for Priesthood
What 'rest of Israel priesthood'???????????????????????????
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hooah212002
Member (Idle past 831 days) Posts: 3193 Joined: 08-12-2009
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Message 64 of 352 (521622)
08-28-2009 9:29 AM
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Reply to: Message 63 by ochaye
08-28-2009 9:17 AM
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Re: Contradiction 3: Qualifications for Priesthood
I was just pointing out that that particular verse does not state what you claim it does. While a good majority of Israel's high priests are of Aaronic descent, not all are. Menalaus being one of them that is not.
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ochaye
Member (Idle past 5268 days) Posts: 307 Joined: 03-08-2009
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Re: Contradiction 3: Qualifications for Priesthood
Now you're saying that there was no other priesthood. Ok.
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hooah212002
Member (Idle past 831 days) Posts: 3193 Joined: 08-12-2009
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Message 66 of 352 (521645)
08-28-2009 11:19 AM
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Reply to: Message 65 by ochaye
08-28-2009 10:25 AM
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Re: Contradiction 3: Qualifications for Priesthood
No. What I said was:
hooah212002 writes: I was just pointing out that that particular verse does not state what you claim it does. That verse alone does not say anything more than at that particular time, in the wilderness of sinai, that tribe of Levi are to report to Aaron to watch over the ark. Don't try and put words in my mouth.
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ochaye
Member (Idle past 5268 days) Posts: 307 Joined: 03-08-2009
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Re: Contradiction 3: Qualifications for Priesthood
Wouldn't dream of it. You agree that there was no other priesthood, tho'.
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hooah212002
Member (Idle past 831 days) Posts: 3193 Joined: 08-12-2009
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Message 68 of 352 (521647)
08-28-2009 11:36 AM
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Reply to: Message 67 by ochaye
08-28-2009 11:25 AM
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Re: Contradiction 3: Qualifications for Priesthood
Now you are cherrypicking MY comments even though that particular comment you refer to is irrelevant to the OP, and you are taking out of context of what I said. At any rate, no, I can't say that I "agree that there was no other priesthood, tho'" as I am not a biblical scholar and have not done a thorough research on the history of Israel's priesthood to make such a claim.
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ochaye
Member (Idle past 5268 days) Posts: 307 Joined: 03-08-2009
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Re: Contradiction 3: Qualifications for Priesthood
'I am not a biblical scholar' OK.
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Granny Magda
Member Posts: 2462 From: UK Joined: 11-12-2007 Member Rating: 3.8
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Message 70 of 352 (521655)
08-28-2009 12:07 PM
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Reply to: Message 59 by ochaye
08-28-2009 6:26 AM
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Not Catholic
Hi Ochaye, The following is simply factually wrong.
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2 Nephi 25:23 shows Mormonism to be Roman Catholicism with a new face, an attempt by Catholics to assault Protestantism in a manner better suited to the modern age, and to American culture, than its own fundamentally medieval nature could adopt.
Wrong. The Mormon church was founded, as we all know, by Joseph Smith. He was never a Catholic. His parents, Joseph Sr. and Lucy Smith, were not Catholics. I have no idea why you would want to make such a bizarre statement, but I have to say that it smacks of knee-jerk anti-Catholic sentiment. If you want to take a pop at the Catholic Church, you'll get little argument from me, but it would be better if you stuck to the facts. Mutate and Survive
"A curious aspect of the theory of evolution is that everybody thinks he understands it." - Jacques Monod
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Michamus
Member (Idle past 5187 days) Posts: 230 From: Ft Hood, TX Joined: 03-16-2009
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Message 71 of 352 (521660)
08-28-2009 12:17 PM
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Reply to: Message 54 by kbertsche
08-27-2009 10:31 PM
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The non-Contradiction 1: Start of Church
kbertsche writes:
According to the Bible, the Christian Church began at the Feast of Pentecost, 50 days after Christs' crucifixion, as detailed in Acts 2. Note that in Mt 16:18, Jesus said that His Church was still future
What happened with Alma in the Book of Mormon is no different than what John the Baptist did. Alma was clearly establishing the Church of God/Christ in preparation for the coming messiah.
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Mosiah 18
15 And again, Alma took another, and went forth a second time into the water, and baptized him according to the first, only he did not bury himself again in the water.
16 And after this manner he did baptize every one that went forth to the place of Mormon; and they were in number about two hundred and four souls; yea, and they were baptized in the waters of Mormon, and were filled with the grace of God.
17 And they were called the church of God, or the church of Christ, from that time forward. And it came to pass that whosoever was baptized by the power and authority of God was added to his church.
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ochaye
Member (Idle past 5268 days) Posts: 307 Joined: 03-08-2009
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Message 72 of 352 (521663)
08-28-2009 12:23 PM
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Reply to: Message 71 by Michamus
08-28-2009 12:17 PM
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Re: The non-Contradiction 1: Start of Church
'And it came to pass that whosoever' Did Americans talk like this in the 19th century?
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Michamus
Member (Idle past 5187 days) Posts: 230 From: Ft Hood, TX Joined: 03-16-2009
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Message 73 of 352 (521665)
08-28-2009 12:29 PM
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Reply to: Message 55 by kbertsche
08-27-2009 10:53 PM
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The non-Contradiction 2: Birthplace of Jesus
kbertsche writes:
According to the Bible, Jesus was born in Bethlehem
Which was within the Land of Jerusalem
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Ancient Near Eastern Texts Relating to the Old Testament, 3d ed. 489 El Amarna letter #287 reports:
a town of the land of Jerusalem, Bit-Lahmi [Bethlehem] by name, a town belonging to the king, has gone over to the side of the people of Keilah.
Edited by Michamus, : No reason given.
How hard they must find it, those who take authority as truth, rather than truth as the authority. -unknown
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Michamus
Member (Idle past 5187 days) Posts: 230 From: Ft Hood, TX Joined: 03-16-2009
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Message 74 of 352 (521666)
08-28-2009 12:31 PM
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Reply to: Message 72 by ochaye
08-28-2009 12:23 PM
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Re: The non-Contradiction 1: Start of Church
I have already stated I am done responding to your off-topic statements. When you have something relevant to the topic to discuss, I will be happy to respond. Have a nice day.
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Michamus
Member (Idle past 5187 days) Posts: 230 From: Ft Hood, TX Joined: 03-16-2009
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Message 75 of 352 (521667)
08-28-2009 12:33 PM
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Reply to: Message 57 by kbertsche
08-27-2009 11:50 PM
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The non-Contradiction 4: Length of Darkness
kbertsche writes:
The Bible says that there was darkness for three hours at the time of Jesus' crucifixion: But the Book of Mormon says that this darkness extended for three days:
You do realize Helaman and Nephi are referring to their own land, and not the middle east... right? Edited by Michamus, : No reason given.
How hard they must find it, those who take authority as truth, rather than truth as the authority. -unknown
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