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Author Topic:   What gives God the right to be "holy"?
Larni
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Message 126 of 138 (537952)
12-02-2009 5:20 AM
Reply to: Message 123 by jaywill
12-01-2009 9:43 PM


Re: Blessing & Curses.
Well then, in all human history who would you submit displayed greater moral authority than Jesus Christ ?
Buddha.
How are his teaching qualitatively different to Jesus's?
Now if someone advises me saying "You know if jump out of the window you will fall down to the ground. You are likely to die."
But in actual fact you god says "You know if you jump out of the window you will down to the ground. You are likely to die. But because you ancestor did jump out of the window in the deep, dark past you yourself must suffer the consequences of falling! Unless you bow down to me".
We are free to choose. We may not always be free to change the consequences of our choices.
We are free to choose to go to hell or not. That's not a choice, is it?
What gives your god the right to give us this ultimatum?
"Love me or go to hell."-paraphrased from Yahweh.
Edited by Larni, : Second and third point.

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Larni
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Message 128 of 138 (537959)
12-02-2009 6:37 AM
Reply to: Message 127 by iano
12-02-2009 6:21 AM


Re: Blessing & Curses.
If we do the wrong, it is only by wilfully suppressing the restraint, ignoring it, telling ourselves it doesn't actually apply in this case, etc.
I disagree. We don't have a core 'good drive' that has to be suppressed for us to act 'non-good'.
Our conscience is a result of our ability to experience empathy. An evolved trait.

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Larni
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Message 133 of 138 (537969)
12-02-2009 8:28 AM
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12-02-2009 6:53 AM


Re: Blessing & Curses.
But you are using the core 'good drive' that you call conscience as a point of evidence in this discussion.
You can't then say that this is an assumption we have to accept.

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