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Gemster
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Message 5 of 95 (57089)
09-23-2003 1:47 AM


what I'd like to know is, was the total information in the genetic code increased and not just altered.

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Gemster
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Message 8 of 95 (57125)
09-23-2003 4:58 AM


trivial pursuit
A quote
There's no information in genetic codes. The code doesn't code for information. It codes for proteins. So your question is kind of meaningless, isn't it?
Okay so a crazy bunch of proteins can make an eye without
any information?
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Gemster
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Message 14 of 95 (57336)
09-23-2003 8:55 PM


come on dude
Yes, because eyes are made of protein, not information. Simple chemistry assembles them.
Evolutionists amuse me in that they always belitte the complex mechanisms in nature by calling them simple. I even saw an article
the other day that said that Darwins problem was that he didn't realise how simple the eye was.
biological chemistry far from being simple is mind boggling. The physiological chain of events that bridge feeling fear with perspiration could fill a couple of pages and then it has been claimed that for every link in the chain that is known, there are probably 100 that aren't
Does water need "information" to become a snowflake?
This bloke says it better than I can...........
. The formation of molecules or atoms into geometric patterns such as snowflakes or crystals reflects movement towards equilibriuma lower energy level, and a more stable arrangement of the molecules or atoms into simple, uniform, repeating structural patterns with minimal complexity, and no function. Living things, on the other hand, do not arrive at and maintain their high levels of order, organization, and complexity in order to achieve thermodynamic equilibrium, but are in fact maintaining far from equilibrium conditions in order to arrive at and maintain those levels.
Timothy Wallace. All Rights Reserved. [Last Modified: 2 September 2002]

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Gemster
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Message 17 of 95 (57622)
09-24-2003 10:38 PM


simplicity
the only thing simple is your statement that biological chemistry is simple. I've been told that it is a fallacy to appeal to authority but I shall do it anyway. scientists have been trying to make simple life in the lab for a long time with no success, because the fact is that a simple cell is more complex than the space shuttle....
Klaus Dose:
More than 30 years of experimentation on the origin of life in the fields of chemical and molecular evolution have led to a better perception of the immensity of the problem of the origin of life on earth rather than to its solution. At present all discussions on principal theories and experiments in the field either end in stalemate or in a confession of ignorance." [From Interdisciplinary Science Review 13(1988):348-56.]

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Gemster
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Message 20 of 95 (57657)
09-25-2003 12:19 AM


yo
synthesis sounds like a horrible lot of human intervention.
Did I mention the bible? what my origins quote meant was that if life is so simple then why can't anyone manufacture any?

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Gemster
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Message 23 of 95 (57672)
09-25-2003 2:34 AM


yesireeeeeee
So we can't do with intelligence what nature can do by accident, even if we invoke nature to help us. Sorry my friend, not a good theory.

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