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jar
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Message 378 of 549 (580126)
09-07-2010 8:51 PM
Reply to: Message 377 by Coyote
09-07-2010 8:45 PM


Re: For anybody who doesn't see the relevance
Yes we are far off topic BUT...this is also a great example of why the ICR was turned down. ICR uses the same mind numbing process in their education and materials. Creation Science is simply a constant dance from rabbit hole to rabbit hole.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 425 of 549 (580909)
09-12-2010 11:33 AM
Reply to: Message 424 by Dawn Bertot
09-12-2010 11:06 AM


Re: For anybody who doesn't see the relevance
Design should be taught in the classroom, even if you decided otherwise
You keep repeating that but never offer any evidence of design.
There is evidence though of chemical and physical influences.
Why teach something where there is no evidence?
How exactly do you teach 'design'?

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 427 of 549 (580913)
09-12-2010 11:59 AM
Reply to: Message 426 by Dawn Bertot
09-12-2010 11:56 AM


Re: For anybody who doesn't see the relevance
Dawn Bertot writes:
I can show that all that is needed is the known natural laws, and that no designer is observed in the process.
If the known natural laws are observed and no designer is observed, why is there any reason to teach about the non-observed designer?

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 430 of 549 (580918)
09-12-2010 12:15 PM
Reply to: Message 428 by Dawn Bertot
09-12-2010 12:12 PM


Re: For anybody who doesn't see the relevance
Did you say "I can show that all that is needed is the known natural laws, and that no designer is observed in the process. "?

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 433 of 549 (580922)
09-12-2010 12:25 PM
Reply to: Message 432 by Dawn Bertot
09-12-2010 12:23 PM


Re: For anybody who doesn't see the relevance
Did you say "I can show that all that is needed is the known natural laws, and that no designer is observed in the process. "?

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 440 of 549 (580934)
09-12-2010 1:03 PM
Reply to: Message 439 by Dawn Bertot
09-12-2010 1:00 PM


Re: For anybody who doesn't see the relevance
Did you say "I can show that all that is needed is the known natural laws, and that no designer is observed in the process. "?

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 447 of 549 (580947)
09-12-2010 2:59 PM
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09-12-2010 2:45 PM


Re: For anybody who doesn't see the relevance
Could be, but I am still pretty much clueless what Dawn Bertot is saying.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 450 of 549 (580970)
09-12-2010 5:45 PM
Reply to: Message 449 by Percy
09-12-2010 5:40 PM


Re: NCSE Note
Yeah, it got posted up thread. It is a very important thing to note though, particularly this...
quote:
The ICR explains, "Due to the nature of ICR's School of Biblical Apologetics a predominantly religious education school it is exempt from licensing by the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board. Likewise, ICR's School of Biblical Apologetics is legally exempt from being required to be accredited by any secular or ecumenical or other type of accrediting association."
This is yet another example of the "Avoidance Tactic". By moving it into the Apologetics arena they are free to make any nonsense claims they want.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 520 of 549 (582697)
09-22-2010 9:54 PM
Reply to: Message 519 by Dawn Bertot
09-22-2010 9:49 PM


Re: Deja Vu - The feeling this topic's been reopened before
Are they already predisposed to decision against ICR to begin with. Do we have a balanced and fair panel, dispersing judgements in the first place.
Hopefully they are predisposed to decide against the utter dishonesty like what was presented by ICR. That is their job. ID and Creationism can never be science simply because they begin with a conclusion.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 523 of 549 (582702)
09-22-2010 10:05 PM
Reply to: Message 521 by Dawn Bertot
09-22-2010 9:59 PM


The duty of an accreditation committee
So when you say "hopefully", that is a good indication that you have no idea about thier fields, perspectives and opinions concerning these matters. it would be interesting to see IF ANYONE COULD PRESENT IT.
I only need to know what their duty is and their duty was to determine if the curriculum is adequate to justify accreditation.
Design or creationism suffers no defeat, simply because these people choose otherwise
The issue was whether or not the program met the minimum standards for accreditation. The Committee did their job.
Edited by jar, : fix subtitle

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