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Author Topic:   Another example of right wing evil
Phat
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Message 194 of 247 (623397)
07-10-2011 1:17 AM
Reply to: Message 184 by hooah212002
07-09-2011 3:37 PM


Re: Why The Fuss?
theodoric writes:
I cannot understand the love the people in this country have for the rich and corporations. Our country is being raped by the rich and corporations and people still want to lower the taxes on them.
hooah writes:
They hold on to the pipe dream (you know, the one piped through every TV show in America) that they, too, will be rich one day if they just work hard enough.
I agree with this. Why should the wealthy people resent paying more taxes? They will still be wealthy. The alternative is to hold the vanishing middle class hostage, take away and cut the social services and education, and force us to repay the debt with less than 20% of the countries income.

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Phat
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Message 197 of 247 (623429)
07-10-2011 11:32 AM
Reply to: Message 172 by jar
07-09-2011 8:49 AM


Re: What made America free and great?
jar,responding to Buz writes:
What made America free was having two oceans as borders and weaker nations north and south.
What made America great was rampant exploitation of the people that were here before the Europeans and raping the land and resources.
So if we no longer exploit anyone, can we still be great or will we get pushed to the back of the line and forced to work like debt slaves for fifty years?
Our protesters will all have guns, unlike Greece.
Coyote thinks the rich will move away, but this is too nice of a place to abandon.
I fear globalism. Its so scary.
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Phat
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Message 202 of 247 (623454)
07-10-2011 4:43 PM
Reply to: Message 200 by jar
07-10-2011 12:22 PM


Tough Solutions
jar, why are you never on the side of the middle class? Granted we were ignorant and allowed all of these changes to happen over the last thirty years, but the wealthy are the only ones that can pay the bill anytime soon. I cant understand why you have no empathy to a class of people that will feel like Greece in the next twenty years.
Yes, we have discussed this before, and yes, i realize that the fix will take fifty years. I am just curious why you don't hold the wealthy equally responsible for fixing the imbalance.

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Phat
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Message 241 of 247 (624160)
07-16-2011 10:09 AM
Reply to: Message 240 by Taz
07-14-2011 1:06 PM


Re: Not necessarily evil, per se
i quote a man who says it better than i could:
quote:
The best 30 years in our history were from 1947 to 1977 when the top marginal tax rate on income ranged from 91% in 1947, to 70% in 1977, with no distinction between wages and capital gains, "unearned income"! ...we were the number one supplier of all types of consumer goods to the whole world until Japan and Europe recovered from WW2, but also because owners put profits back into their companies to avoid paying those high income tax rates.
Since Reagan and Bush got top marginal rates down as low as 28% the rich have not had restraint on what they paid themselves. The rich have had over 10 years now to benefit from Bush’s tax cuts but where are the jobs they should have created? The only jobs they created were in Mexico or China or Southeast Asia! ...allowing the corporations to get out from under American wages and benefits and to take advantage of slave labor outside our borders..."
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