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Coyote
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Message 154 of 247 (623242)
07-08-2011 8:44 PM
Reply to: Message 153 by Buzsaw
07-08-2011 8:33 PM


Re: Why The Fuss?
Because gay is not natural.
Where did you get that idea?

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

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Message 156 of 247 (623246)
07-08-2011 8:55 PM
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07-08-2011 8:53 PM


Re: Why The Fuss?
No, my guess is that you take it from ancient tribal myth.
But if you studied some anthropology you just might learn something about how the real world actually is.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

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Message 158 of 247 (623250)
07-08-2011 9:10 PM
Reply to: Message 157 by Taz
07-08-2011 9:05 PM


Ooooooohh, conservative vs conservative. Fight fight fight fight fight fight fight!
Don't get all excited.
I don't consider theo-cons to be conservatives. They are statists, as long as the state enforces their beliefs. You can't be a statist and a conservative.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

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Message 160 of 247 (623255)
07-08-2011 10:33 PM
Reply to: Message 159 by hooah212002
07-08-2011 10:31 PM


Re: Why The Fuss?
You want intolerance?
Nobody beats the "progressives" for intolerance.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

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Message 163 of 247 (623260)
07-08-2011 10:52 PM
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07-08-2011 10:45 PM


Re: Why The Fuss?
If ill ask you who those progressives are, and what they want, are you going to go all Glenn Beck on me?
I don't watch Glenn Beck.
You see, im actually a socialist...
Sorry to hear that.
I believe in working for my living and paying my own way.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

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Message 166 of 247 (623265)
07-08-2011 11:38 PM
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07-08-2011 11:32 PM


Re: Why The Fuss?
I believe in working for my living and paying my own way.
It's nice to know that you have some socialist principles.
Sorry, no.
Socialist principles involve taking what I have earned--at the point of a gun--and giving it it those who have not earned it. That gets old real quick. It removes the inventive for me to work.
Does the phrase "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need (or needs)" mean anything to you?

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Message 187 of 247 (623388)
07-09-2011 10:28 PM
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07-09-2011 12:28 PM


Re: Why The Fuss?
Paris Hilton makes $6,500,000 a year.
Does Paris Hilton work 65x harder than you? Is she 65x smarter than you? Producing 65x as much material goods as you?
There are people who make a ridiculous amount of money, often because they were related to someone who made a bunch of money and left it to them.
The idea that these people should pay LESS in taxes than a factor worker who gets up every morning and trudges to work for a fraction of a fraction of what they make is ridiculous.
What in all of this gives someone the right to take at the point of a gun what someone else earns, no matter how it is earned?
What I take from your post is that progressives are champions at class envy. This probably goes back to Marx.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

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Message 190 of 247 (623392)
07-09-2011 11:59 PM


"From each according to his ability" and other nonsense
Dr Adequate and Nuggin--
You two seem to be promoting the policy that the state has the right to take anything it wants from the individual based on it's presumed "need."
It is a short distance from "anything" to "everything" ala "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need (or needs)." Who decides?
At the point where a society ends up with more takers than makers, what is to keep the makers from leaving? And if the makers leave, who then will support the takers in the style in which they would like to become accustomed? (Recall the parable of the goose?)
What we are seeing is Bread and Circuses (q.v.).
The downward spiral we see promoted by many to "tax the rich" is viable only as long as we have "the rich." When you destroy "the rich" or drive them away, who then will support your failed policies?
In a broader sense: Why should I work to support you?
ps. John Galt was right.

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Message 192 of 247 (623394)
07-10-2011 12:25 AM
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07-10-2011 12:16 AM


Re: "From each according to his ability" and other nonsense
Do you think that Paris Hilton should pay the same in tax that you do? If your answer is "no", do you count that as "class envy"?
Can you think of any reason why some people should pay a higher rate than others that does not involve class envy or Bread and Circuses?
And do you not agree that Marx and his "From each according to his ability" nonsense is totally discredited? Or is that what you are pushing?

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