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RAZD Member (Idle past 1434 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Texas lawmakers fighting to insert Christian language in funerals for non-Christian soldiers
quote: Doesn't Rep. John Culberson (R-Texas). know that we already have the Westboro Baptist Church. Attention Required! | CloudflareWestboro Baptist Church to 'Quadruple' Funeral Protests After Ruling - ABC News quote: Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1434 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Hi dogmafood,
PART I CANADIAN CHARTER OF RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS Whereas Canada is founded upon principles that recognize the supremacy of God and the rule of law: Ah but which god/s?... ... perhaps we should ship all the fundamentalists that want to live in a "christian nation" up there ... of course they would have to sign an affidavit that they wouldn't use any of the "socialist" programs in Canada eh? (makes you wonder how a nation so founded would be so socialistic ... surely that's not christian (TFIC*) Enjoy. * (Tongue Firmly In Cheek)by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1434 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Please don't...or if you do, send them to Alberta. Oh, but it would be much more fun to ship them to Quebec. ::>newfie joke Edited by RAZD, : smiliesby our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1434 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
seems the topic is long lost on this thread.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1434 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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Hi fearandloathing,
I've considered a couple of places to post this, and have chosen this thread as it may lead to a more productive discussion that what has preceded of late. It's likely controversial, and you may not consider it on topic, but . . .
I am sick and tired of the cult of worship that seems to have grown around this incident, particularly now that we are being inundated by a constant stream of references from Labor Day to today with no end until the 11th in sight. A week of wallowing in the past and a week of almost reverent talk about the threats of further terrorism. It was an act of terrorism. It wasn't the first, it wasn't the first in America, and it won't be the last. We live in a world where terrorism exists -- and it existed before 9-11 and it will continue to exist until the social inequalities\causes that incubate terrorism are dealt with and marginalized (Ushering In An Age of Reason....Or Not.....? was another thread I considered infiltrating, but didn't want to disturb the discussion there). I see very little in the way of effort to reduce the problems and issues that incubate terrorism, in fact it seems that many policies, intentional or not, have increased the likelihood of future terrorism (the war in Iraq, staying in Afghanistan, killing civilians, keeping the prisoners in GITMO, even after Osama bin Laden was killed, etc.). It's as though the "War against Terrorism" is a Holy War that cannot be questioned, where alternative approaches cannot be raised. The problem is that terrorism is not just an American problem, it is a world problem, with people all over the world involved as victims (and yes I consider\include the terrorists as victims too), and that it is not a "war" that can be fought with military forces -- it is a police problem to track down leaders and bring justice, and it is a political problem to deal with the social inequalities\causes that incubate terrorism. I also find that the Cult of Fear that seems to have taken over the media is very disturbing. It's almost like the can't wait for the next attack. The idea that fear justifies taking away constitutional rights is something that I find appalling. This cult of fear has also been used to justify attacks on american muslims and american arabs, as if they are, or were, personally responsible. Much preferable to me is the stance of Franklin Delanor Roosevelt "Only Thing We Have to Fear Is Fear Itself": FDR's First Inaugural Address
quote: This is the way I expect Americans to act, not to bring in the "Patriot" act. Oh what a difference in tone it would have made, if Schrubbia had quoted this passage and asked people to rise up rather than ask them to shrink in fear. There are also the quote/s attributed to Benjamin Franklin: Benjamin Franklin - Wikiquote
quote: This was a sentiment expressed during the times when our nation was first being founded, and it still rings true today. We can cower in fear, institute massive legal intrusion into our lives, liberties and freedoms, and be no safer. Instead we risk losing our nation and encouraging further terrorism. More people are killed in auto accidents every year, and these are more likely to affect the average American than terrorism, yet we don't cower in fear about it. I also find this inspiring in the proper way: September Eleventh Families for Peaceful Tomorrows
quote: Not much more to say after that. Enjoy Edited by RAZD, : ... Edited by RAZD, : colorby our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1434 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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Hi fearandloathing,
After doing a little looking it seems ny last question is a non question. Progressives are pushing for repeal of this as well. It's just a matter of time, imho. Enjoy.by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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