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Author Topic:   Ann Coulter (Is she hateful?)
Dr Adequate
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Message 202 of 274 (679673)
11-15-2012 7:34 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by foreveryoung
11-11-2012 7:36 PM


and they call obama a conservative????
Well yes. I missed this one.
Yes, apart from his belated support for gay marriage and the abolition of DADT, Obama is exactly a conservative from 50 years ago. Back in the good old days.
But right-wing rhetoric has shifted so far that Eisenhower and Nixon and Ford and Reagan would nowadays be considered Evil Communist Marxists Who Want To Destroy America if they stood on their policies today. Obama continues their tradition, but you are so far right that you can't appreciate that from a historical perspective America has just re-elected a moderate Republican.

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Message 213 of 274 (679756)
11-15-2012 3:36 PM
Reply to: Message 208 by Faith
11-15-2012 1:42 PM


Re: Ann's hyperbole
Y'know, I actually thought you might have been telling the truth in post #199. How wrong I was.

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Message 218 of 274 (679837)
11-16-2012 1:57 AM
Reply to: Message 215 by Faith
11-16-2012 12:23 AM


Re: Ann's hyperbole / what is treachery
Dear Annie is speaking for conservatives who do regard a lot of what "college liberals" promote as traitorous ideas.
Which is kind of the problem, isn't it? I regard conservatives as wrong; she and her acolytes regard liberals as traitors or potential traitors who need to be physically intimidated by the threat of execution. (Unless, of course, she is using that famous "hyperbole" again.)

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Dr Adequate
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Message 219 of 274 (679839)
11-16-2012 2:06 AM
Reply to: Message 216 by Faith
11-16-2012 12:33 AM


Re: I'm no prophet
My mood changes, I get a new lease on my view of things, I pray for patience and to love my enemies, and then I come back.
How about you pray to stop seeing us as your enemies? We're not. We are people who disagree with you. Besides pointing out that you're wrong, no-one here has ever done anything to hurt you.

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Message 220 of 274 (679840)
11-16-2012 2:09 AM
Reply to: Message 217 by foreveryoung
11-16-2012 12:58 AM


Re: Ann's hyperbole / what is treachery
I'm sure many here view your post as mad, but it is right on the money. You spelled out how I have always felt but was never articulate enough to communicate it. It is hard to prove but any true conservative who has thought long and hard about these issues will know in their gut that you are absolutely right.
Here's an idea --- try knowing things with your brain instead of your gut. Oh, and if you find something "hard to prove" that's often a sign that it's not true.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 228 of 274 (679869)
11-16-2012 5:47 AM
Reply to: Message 223 by foreveryoung
11-16-2012 3:16 AM


Re: Ann's hyperbole / what is treachery
No. Intuition is more often right than wrong. There are some things that go beyond mere investigation of obvious facts. The subconscious mind is more perceptive than the conscious mind. Given enough time and effort, intuition can be born out with evidence. If you look long and hard enough for the evidence, everything in faith's post can be shown to be more than likely if not proven.
Well, I guess this is why we're on opposite sides.
I believe in things because there is evidence for them.
You believe in things because of "the subconscious mind" and "intuition" and knowing things in your "gut" and you think that these are better than "mere investigation of obvious facts".
Well then, I don't see what we can talk about. I put "mere investigation of obvious facts" ahead of my gut feeling. You put your gut feeling above "mere investigation of obvious facts". But the only way I can debate with you is by presenting "mere investigation of obvious facts". That's as far as I can go. To me, that is what argument means --- we investigate the facts. If the "obvious facts" mean nothing to you, then I am not sure that I can say anything to you.
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Message 229 of 274 (679870)
11-16-2012 5:52 AM
Reply to: Message 225 by Faith
11-16-2012 3:42 AM


Re: Ann's hyperbole / what is treachery
That's well said. Things that were unthinkable even only a few decades ago are now considered normal and since some of them are subversive the new normal is a state of chronic political subversion and it's hardly recognized.
Just to get this straight, so to speak, are you talking about gay marriage? If not, what are you talking about?
As I've reviewed my own posts over the last page or two I see how I've been struggling to get my thoughts together on this subject. When I finally do then I sound articulate.
No. No you do not.

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Message 230 of 274 (679871)
11-16-2012 6:06 AM
Reply to: Message 222 by Faith
11-16-2012 2:54 AM


Re: Ann's hyperbole / what is treachery
Well, not if they DO promote traitorous ideas that perhaps you don't recognize as such.
But I can recognize treason. Treason is easy to recognize. Treason is not disagreeing with Ann Coulter.
Her whole statement was really a WAY of saying that college liberals promote traitorous ideas.
Well, yes. Her whole statement was really a way of telling a stupid vindictive lie.
If it is not true, which it isn't, then it is false, which it is.
Whether there are any such REAL inclinations among college liberals, I don't know, but there have been liberal/Leftist revolutionists in the past who have blown things up which is certainly a traitorous act, so why not?
Well, up until 9/11 the worst terrorist act in the USA was the Oklahoma City bombing perpetrated by the conservative terrorist Timothy McVeigh. Your heroine Coulter said that her only regret about that act was that McVeigh didn't target the New York Times building. What similar atrocities have been committed by liberals and supported by liberal pundits?

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Message 232 of 274 (679884)
11-16-2012 7:53 AM
Reply to: Message 231 by Faith
11-16-2012 7:30 AM


Re: woops, they're in high suspicion mode again
By the way this is SUPPOSED to be funny ...
But in fact it's sad and pathetic.
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Message 251 of 274 (680005)
11-17-2012 4:14 AM
Reply to: Message 246 by NoNukes
11-16-2012 2:51 PM


Re: Professing conservatism.
Well, I'm not sure how to parse 1.61803's post. If he means that all Republicans defend Coulter, then he is clearly wrong. If he means that all those Republicans who do defend her are in sympathy with her, then he may well be right.
And I have no idea what he thinks the word "insipid" means, but I'm sure it doesn't mean what he thinks it means.

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