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Author Topic:   Is Dispensationalism a cult?
NoNukes
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Message 5 of 77 (708803)
10-14-2013 4:41 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by jar
10-14-2013 10:26 AM


Re: Dispensationalism
Dispensationalism is a fairly new phenomenon and totally changed the thrust and reading of the Bible...
It this is what constitutes a cult, then I don't see any point in applying the label, because the label is intended as a pejorative. Using your fairly benign definition, Catholics are well justified in calling most of the rest of us cultists, and then sticking us with defending ourselves against the negative connotations of the word.
Instead I would suggest demonstrating that dispensationalism is worthy of carrying the pejoratives associated with the word cult. Then if the shoe fits, don't acquit.
Alternatively we can decide that cults are the branch of Christianity that is the least Biblical, or that meets some other relevant objective or subjective standard. But just being new and saleable isn't a standard I'd want to bother with.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I believe that a scientist looking at nonscientific problems is just as dumb as the next guy.
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If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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NoNukes
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Message 15 of 77 (708815)
10-14-2013 9:17 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by jar
10-14-2013 5:30 PM


Re: Dispensationalism
Okay. I have no problem with you holding that position.
Wow, that's very Protestant of you. Thanks.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I believe that a scientist looking at nonscientific problems is just as dumb as the next guy.
Richard P. Feynman
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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NoNukes
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Message 17 of 77 (708819)
10-14-2013 11:07 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Phat
10-14-2013 10:50 PM


Re: So dispensationalism has nothing to do with reality or what the Bible actaually says
Please show me where the Bible contradicts anything that I believe..there is ample suggestion that Jesus is alive.
It is also the case that Jesus being alive is not a tenet unique to dispensationalism, so it is likely that you are not pointing to a point of contention.
Surely you are aware of at least one of your beliefs that contradicts with what non-dispensationalists believe. Why not start there?
For example I am curious why you think Jesus words in Matthew 25:31-32 don't apply to Gentiles. But pick your own belief.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I believe that a scientist looking at nonscientific problems is just as dumb as the next guy.
Richard P. Feynman
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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NoNukes
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Message 20 of 77 (708836)
10-15-2013 9:54 AM
Reply to: Message 9 by Phat
10-14-2013 5:40 PM


Re: Dispensationalism
? surely its not simply the newest step child that gets labled
That's pretty much what jar stated as a definition. But I think there is the implication that you hold tightly to tenets that come from non Biblical sources and that you are being led astray. So maybe definition 1(a) is closest.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I believe that a scientist looking at nonscientific problems is just as dumb as the next guy.
Richard P. Feynman
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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NoNukes
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Message 76 of 77 (755053)
04-03-2015 9:28 PM
Reply to: Message 75 by ringo
04-02-2015 12:16 PM


Re: Discerning Character
As I've said before, I think "free will" is pretty much a nonsensical concept.
Not on topic here, but at some point it might be interesting to explore your position on free will, determinism, choice, and whatever else. I'm curious what people think free will is nonsense think about those things.

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Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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