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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Dispensationalism is a fairly new phenomenon and totally changed the thrust and reading of the Bible from what had been the common understanding for the first 1400 or 1500 years but it was eminently marketable and a great way to control the masses.
Up until the advent of the Dispensation marketing ploy the prophesies found in the Bible were understood to refer to the contemporary period when written and for the contemporary audience. Revelation for example was understood to refer to the period shortly after the destruction of Jerusalem. Dispensationalism changed that understanding from a view towards the past to a future view and allowed fear to be used as a weapon of mass hysteria and also dispensation to be used as a way of saying "join us and YOU won't have to ..." It is after the idea of "Original Sin" one of the most brilliant marketing and control ploys ever invented.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Okay. I have no problem with you holding that position.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
When it is marketing that is the right label.
Why do you always seem to drift towards dispensationalism? What is it in the product that you like? Why do you buy the product?
Are you suggesting that the common understanding for the first 1400-1500 years is the true way of interpreting scripture? No, I am saying though that the dispensationalists were selling a whole new product, one not available before.
Keep in mind that the printing of books had barely begun and that 90% of people were illiterate anyway. HUH? Is that more nonsense that the dispensationalists sold you? If everyone was illiterate then who bought the books? Why did the printing press succeed? And are you claiming that no books existed before the printing press and moveable type were invented? Stop believing what you are told, particularly if it comes from a Priest or Pastor or Brother or Bishop. Challenge all of it. Doubt all of it. Question all of it? I am saying that today a great way to get rich is to be a preacher in the fundamentalist/evangelical/dispensationalist Chapters of Club christian. Tell folk they are saved, born agin.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Why do you always seem to drift towards dispensationalism? What is it in the product that you like? Why do you buy the product?
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Phat writes: I don't like the idea that Jesus was never born of a virgin and is likely not alive. I simply don't accept that. While I may allow that God expects us to question things and think for ourselves, I believe that many people deny the need for Christ or the power. This world will never solve its problems through logic, reason, and reality alone. So dispensationalism has nothing to do with reality or what the Bible actually says but rather you buy into it because it tells you what you want to hear. It is marketed towards what YOU want to hear; and so an easy sell. You want Jesus to be alive and looking out for Phat, Jeeves instead of Jesus. Got it. It's all about Phat.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
That is pretty much irrelevant in a discussion of dispensationalism. But look at what you said when asked why you choose dispensationalism?
Phat writes: I don't like the idea that Jesus was never born of a virgin and is likely not alive. I simply don't accept that. While I may allow that God expects us to question things and think for ourselves, I believe that many people deny the need for Christ or the power. This world will never solve its problems through logic, reason, and reality alone. There is absolutely nothing in your reasons related to dispensationalism and everything to do with Phat not wanting to take responsibility for what happens and Phat wanting someone else to step in and fix things. Isn't what you gave as your reasons all a matter of what Phat wants and will accept and nothing related to anything else? As I have said, dispensationalism is a great product to market and a far easier sell than "Take up YOUR cross and follow me."Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Because we are not to be as gods, for one thing. Who said "Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil:"?Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Learn Phat.
Satan was booted out of heaven for refusing Gods wish he bow down and worship man. Yes, they were thrown out of the Garden of Eden because God feared they would eat the the Tree of Life. But they had gained the capability to judge right and wrong just as the God character.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
It takes a perfect God to instill right and wrong into human consciousness. But such a thing simply does not exist. What we have is just what a God has, the ability to think about what is right and wrong. In most cases there simply is no correct answer. Thou shalt not kill. But what if killing someone would save your family? Thou shalt not steal. But what if stealing food is the only way to feed your family? Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors ass. But what if your neighbor is tall and tan and young and lovely?Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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And so God gives us grace, but does not want us to use grace as an excuse or license to do whatever we want. Assumes facts not in evidence. We do not know that God will give us grace but believe that if we are forgiven it will be by God's grace and not our own. Note "if". Those who think they are saved or forgiven are putting the cart before the horse. They need to wait until after they are judged to work that out. But that is not comforting.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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