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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Blue writes:
Which brings me back to my previous point: How do you know God isn't the wicked one? Destroying the earth with a flood sounds pretty wicked to me. Sending billions to everlasting torment sounds wicked to me. Who could possibly be more wicked than God? God is judging the wicked because God permitted their life. If Jesus and Satan were real, how would you know which is which?
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Blue Inactive Member |
There is no assumption. It is a conclusion. Did you not read where it is written "the lord said unto the serpent because thou has done this, thou are cursed..." Gen 3:14.
The serpent was being deceptive. Eve told the serpent, she would die, the serpent said no you wont. Result man dies, hence the great fall. Hence why we die.. You know, why we return to dust... Edited by Blue, : ErrSincerely Blue
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Blue Inactive Member |
Hence why God is holy. How do I know God is not evil? = revelation, biblical theology and satanic studies.
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Blue Inactive Member |
I didn't bite the dust. I was just done with your nonsense.
Sincerely Blue
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Blue Inactive Member |
I said or otherwise. Have you read satanic books before?
Sincerely Blue
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Blue Inactive Member |
I will be responding to you in time.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
I'm going to try to gather up some of these threads into one post. In future, please quote what you're refering to so I don't have to hunt all over th topic for it.
Blue writes:
I have more respect for the Bible than you do. I accept it for what it is; I don't twst it to make it fit some twisted theology. You seem to hate on the Bible and tend to ignore the original context of messages in the Bible. Message 445 I have quoted to you directly from the Bible and you have said, "Nuh uh. It doesn't say what it says. It says black is white."
We know the Bible isn't perfect.
And I'm saying that if that's God's attitude, lock phasers. That's how we deal with uppity aliens.
There you go twisting the Bible. In Genesis 2:17 God said, "But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. In Genesis 3:5 the serpent said, "For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil." And in Genesis 3:22 God confirmed that the serpent had told the truth: "And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil:" ABE, responding to another post:
Blue writes:
If God was evil, the "revelations would be deceptive, the Biblical theology would be unrelaiable and the "satanic studies" would be God's anti-Satan propaganda. So you don't "know" at all; you're only looking at one side of the story. How do I know God is not evil? = revelation, biblical theology and satanic studies. Message 453 Edited by ringo, : Added response to anothr post. Edited by ringo, : Added link.
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Blue Inactive Member |
I don't need to respond since your post is self defeating. Anyone interested in understanding the fall, read scripture.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Blue writes:
I quoted scripture to you. Your claims about "the fall" are not there.
Anyone interested in understanding the fall, read scripture.
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Blue Inactive Member |
They are.. The only issue with my post anyone will understand by reading Gen 3. What the Serpent said to Eve is clearly deceptive. The point that he told the truth doesn't change that he was deceptive. It also doesn't change that the Serpent was judged.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Blue writes:
The truth is deceptive?
The point that he told the truth doesn't change that he was deceptive.
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Blue Inactive Member |
Yes
Sincerely Blue
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Blue Inactive Member |
The focus is not what he said.
Sincerely Blue
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Blue Inactive Member |
The focus of the story is clearly on the Serpent "convincing" Eve, to eat from the tree. The Serpent knew they would die. How else would Adam and Eve know they would learn the knowledge of good and evil? God didn't tell the humans it was the tree of good and evil. If the Serpent was an internal adversary it wouldn't of known it was the tree of good and evil. You also need to read verse 1 where it reads "now the Serpent was more SUBTIL than any beast of the field". Then in verse 2 it leads up to the Serpent asking the question. This is a deceptive plot. It's not even a difficult thing to conclude.. Do you really want to argue the meaning of Subtil and How it applies? Crafty, SLY, Shrewd, Prudent... This definition of Subtil is based on the Hebrew lexicon.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Blue writes:
How else would Adam and Eve know they would learn the knowledge of good and evil? God didn't tell the humans it was the tree of good and evil.quote:
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