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Message 2463 of 5179 (729424)
06-11-2014 1:36 PM
Reply to: Message 2462 by ringo
06-11-2014 1:21 PM


Re: Reasons for Shooting :/
Ringo writes:
I don't think there's any way to safely shoot at people in a crowded city.
Agreed. Nor chase the perps at high speed.

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Message 2722 of 5179 (732663)
07-09-2014 1:53 PM
Reply to: Message 2716 by Diomedes
07-09-2014 11:24 AM


quote:
I wouldn't exactly call running away a teachable martial arts tactic.
He who fights and runs away, lives to fight another day!
At least in the case of bears.

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Message 2724 of 5179 (732666)
07-09-2014 2:56 PM
Reply to: Message 2723 by Diomedes
07-09-2014 2:10 PM


Re: Monty Python
"Brrraavve Buurraave,, Sir RRRobin!" love it.
So in the realm of standing ones ground verses buggering off.
If one is armed with a gun, then that person may feel a bit invincible and be inclined to pop a cap in someones ass.
I seem to recall a incident in Tampa Fl where a retired law enforcement gentleman did just that to someone who he confronted for texting in the theater. The one texting threw popcorn on the old coot and the old coot put some lead in his diet, which did not work out so good for anyone.
On the other hand if the fire arm in question is out of reach or otherwise not a option. Then you are forced to rely on your hands and feet and teeth, or any available device to use in defense. Or bugger off.
I am in the Enter the Dragon Bruce Lee camp. The art of fighting without fighting. Or buggering off!
Now if trapped in my home while someone is burgling my things,
I would do what most home defense folks advocate, avoid confrontation, gather family in safe room, lock door and call police.
All the while keeping a bead on the door with my fully stoked mossberg.
Edited by 1.61803, : spelling

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Message 2733 of 5179 (732720)
07-10-2014 10:19 AM
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07-09-2014 4:15 PM


Re: Monty Python
Diomedes writes:
Personally, I am not an advocate of the stand your ground laws.
Me either.
The law says that the onus to retreat is not required. It most certainly does not mean for over reactive, mentally unstable, combative paranoids to interpret any and every physical altercation as means to justify their sick desire to blow someones shit away.imo.

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Message 2861 of 5179 (735858)
08-27-2014 10:58 AM


And yet the saga continues...
Delet duplicate
Edited by 1.61803, : No reason given.

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Message 2862 of 5179 (735860)
08-27-2014 11:06 AM


And yet another incident..
quote:
DOLAN SPRINGS, Ariz. (AP) -- A 9-year-old girl accidentally killed an Arizona shooting instructor as he was showing her how to use an automatic Uzi, authorities said.
Wtf? Honestly.
How did that conversation go?
Child: "Daddy can I shoot a Uzi today?"
Dad: " I have a idea hunni, lets let our 9 year old daughter shoot a Uzi today!."
Mom: "Oh dear you two and those guns."
Instructor: " Ok sweety be sure to ..****BRUUURaaAATT-TATTttaaTTAAAa!!***
Mom: " Oh my."

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Message 2869 of 5179 (744556)
12-12-2014 10:52 AM
Reply to: Message 2868 by Percy
12-12-2014 9:16 AM


Re: Balance Shifts about Gun Control
Hi Percy,
They have gun safes with bio sensors.
You just put you hand on the safe and it unlocks to your finger print.
However you make a good point, having a loaded gun in the houses is dangerous. If you forget to lock the safe just once you could have a tragedy. The level of gun safety vigilance required is above the risk of a break in when compared to a bad outcome due to negligence.
That being said I'd rather have a loaded pistol in such a instance than just my pecker in my hand.

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Message 2881 of 5179 (744841)
12-16-2014 11:11 AM
Reply to: Message 2876 by frako
12-14-2014 6:49 AM


Hey frako,
Sorry to hear about your dog.

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Message 2882 of 5179 (744844)
12-16-2014 11:18 AM
Reply to: Message 2880 by ringo
12-16-2014 10:58 AM


Re: and another one...
The genie has been let out of the lamp. Guns are here and here to stay. Anyone who wants one will obtain one and use it regardless of any legislation passed.
Guns will continue to kill, maim and plague our society as long as the mindset of the American public remains infatuated with them.
Sad but true.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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Message 2884 of 5179 (744848)
12-16-2014 11:21 AM
Reply to: Message 2883 by Faith
12-16-2014 11:18 AM


Re: Yes Re: and another one...
The good guys are killing folks just as much as the "bad" guys.
A bullet don't care.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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Message 2914 of 5179 (744984)
12-17-2014 3:19 PM
Reply to: Message 2911 by Percy
12-17-2014 11:12 AM


Re: Yes Re: and another one...
Why is it still legal to sell a new Colt 45 with no more safety features than it had in 1873?
Because of the American gun mentality that is still in 1883.
To illustrate here is a quote from Sam Colt:
The good people in this world are very far from being satisfied with each other and my arms are the best peacemaker.
Samuel Colt, 1852

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Message 3232 of 5179 (746384)
01-06-2015 10:26 AM
Reply to: Message 3227 by AZPaul3
01-03-2015 7:01 AM


Whats worse is he is the Chief of Police and a gun safety instructor.

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Message 3233 of 5179 (746386)
01-06-2015 10:31 AM


And this one..
Edited by 1.61803, : No reason given.

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Message 3293 of 5179 (749265)
02-03-2015 1:49 PM
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02-02-2015 1:15 PM


Re: 3-year Old Boy Shoots Parents
This is all assuming the weapon was a automatic. I did not read anywhere what kind of handgun it was. If it was a snubby revolver all the kid had to do is point and pull the trigger. He might of even knew enough to cock the hammer back to the horror of his parents.

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Message 3392 of 5179 (758013)
05-18-2015 2:57 PM
Reply to: Message 3391 by ramoss
05-18-2015 10:53 AM


Re: Biker Fight
According to the Waco PD spokesperson, no civillians and no Law Enforcement were injured. 9 bikers doa and 192 arrest so far.
Twin Peaks closed for 7 days and has had their franchise revoked by the company.
Way to go Twin Peaks, I can see that staff meeting: Lets allow a outlaw biker gang to hold recruitment activities in our breasturant.
"Hey that sounds like a grand way to make some serious cash!"

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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