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BINGO!!The .223/5.56 round was never intended (nor is widely used) as a handgun round. The armor piercing policy was intended for handgun rounds. The ATF attempted (and has now failed) to annex a well known and widely used rifle round into handgun regulations because it's possible (and it has been done) to build a handgun around a rifle cartridge.The reason that the policy was aimed at handgun rounds only, is that any standard high velocity rifle round will penetrate the overwhelming percentage (all?) of LEO body armor - there's no need whatsoever for an armor piercing round in a rifle to shoot a cop through his/her vest.JB

A standard ball 5.56 shreds police vests, that's why it's so ridiculous to pretend that eliminating the 'green tip' round accomplishes anything.The idea of limiting 'armor piercing' rounds to protect vested police is only effective in the lower velocity, higher caliber rounds. These rounds (typical handgun rounds) need special design to penetrate armor and thus the controls on those designs. Any jacketed rifle round traveling 2-3,000fps will pierce ANY soft armor, kevlar, etc. Getting rid of green tips won't make any difference - vest is shredded anyway.It's like saying "We are going to save lives by banning 14" knives. 12" are OK." Well, either one kills just as readily.JB

While the data for that may exist Percy, I have yet to see it. Do you have it?What I have seen is that a gun IS more likely to kill an associated family member (by accident, homicide or suicide) than to kill an intruder/attacker. That in no way makes your statement true however as guns are used for defense with an extremely likely outcome being the trigger is never pulled.JB

Appreciative of your extraordinary effort to track this down. I'll go through it.Thanks
JB