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Phat Member Posts: 18349 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
jar writes: I will agree that many christians are bigoted and hateful. We do need to repent and try our best to improve these sins and faults. I will say one thing, however. People cannot live and do as Jesus the "living example" did if we see him as only human. Jesus is how GOD relates to ants. Jesus is living and alive today. Ants will never rebuild society alone. They need to be responsible, I will admit. They need to be balanced and accountable. They need to try to do their best. Admit when they are wrong. And turn from it. They will never do this on human strength alone... The majority is not against Christians but against bigotry, hate and the brand of Christianity you try to market. You always taught that asking Jesus into your heart was silly. A way to avoid personal responsibility and let God do everything. You had one thing right, however. Being saved is an everyday thing. It is not a quick nor easy fix. It is not a way to avoid responsibility. My point is, you will never be able to do your best nor try your hardest on your own strength. You need communion. Edited by Phat, : No reason given.Saying, "I don't know," is the same as saying, "Maybe."~ZombieRingo One of the major purposes of debate is to help you hone your arguments. Yours are pretty bad. They can use all the honing they can get.~Ringo
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Phat writes: You always taught that asking Jesus into your heart was silly. A way to avoid personal responsibility and let God do everything. You had one thing right, however. Being saved is an everyday thing. It is not a quick nor easy fix. It is not a way to avoid responsibility. My point is, you will never be able to do your best nor try your hardest on your own strength. You need communion. Why is communion necessary? What are the tests to show that communion exists? What are the tests to determine who you be communing wit? How come so many folk seem to be able to do their best without such communion? How does communion provide something other than your own strength? What strength other than their own strength can someone have?Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Tangle Member Posts: 9516 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.8 |
Phat writes: but I will say that the only real hope for society is knowing Jesus Christ. Yeh, well, if that's the only hope we have, it's a pity he been dead 2000 year;, that kind of limits the knowing of someone. There's nothing much to be done about it now unless he'd care to re-introduce himself and we'd all be happy to hear what he has to say. I've also got a few pithy questions I'd like to put to him too.Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9201 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
There's nothing much to be done about it now unless he'd care to re-introduce himself and we'd all be happy to hear what he has to say. I've also got a few pithy questions I'd like to put to him too. I'd tell him and his dad to go screw themselves. If they are the creators of all the suffering in the world then I will go with another option. I have no desire to spend eternity with anything so vain, egotistical and immoral as the christian god and little boy jesus.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Phat writes:
On the contrary, an example must be realistic; a goal must be attainable. How can we be all that we can be if the "example" is something we can not be?
People cannot live and do as Jesus the "living example" did if we see him as only human.
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Taq Member Posts: 10085 Joined: Member Rating: 5.1
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Economic collapse is one of the big ways God judges a nation and we've certainly been on the verge of it for years. Then explain why some of the richest countries are Islamic countries that were blessed by God with massive oil reserves. Edited by Taq, : No reason given.
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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And god gave Israel the only spot in the Middle East with NO friggin oil?
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 6.9
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And god gave Israel the only spot in the Middle East with NO friggin oil? And god can't protect the Jews, his chosen people, himself, he needs the west to do it?
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
They are God's instrument of judgment right now, but they'll have their turn at being judged.
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Taq Member Posts: 10085 Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
They are God's instrument of judgment right now, but they'll have their turn at being judged. This is only proof that you are making it up as you go.
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Such hubris, to think you can speak for God.
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ramoss Member (Idle past 642 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
Isn't it fun to make blanket statements that you don't have to back up with reason or logic?
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
God uses the Nazis to judge the Jews. God uses the Allies to judge the Nazis. God uses the Communist bloc to judge the Allies. God uses NATO to judge the Communist bloc. God uses terrorists to judge NATO.
They are God's instrument of judgment right now, but they'll have their turn at being judged.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Not everything is judgment.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
Not everything is judgment. So how do you determine what is judgement in your own pontifications?
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