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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
Billy Graham once said that God always answers prayer - sometimes the answer is "no". Praying in God's will ALWAYS works. The problem is that in praying for God to "do His will" you don't always know what His will is. Maybe His will is that Americans should thin the herd.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Faith writes:
*COUGH* Flood *COUGH*
"Thin the herd" isn't something that would ever be in God's will.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
It isn't always easy to love you either but we (some of us) do - and we don't even have a god telling us to.
You do make it hard to love you, but I'm not giving up.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Faith writes:
I find that love is easier after giving up Christianity.
Should be even easier once I get used to this love thing.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
It isn't "Hollywood-invented"; it's what we see on the news - like a father whose daughter has just been shot to death saying, "I need a gun."
I've known a lot of gun owners and there isn't a shred of resemblance between them and that Hollywood-invented portrait of them.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Cat Sci writes:
Hell no.
Can I buy my brother a shotgun for Christmas? Can someone give me a gun so long as I don't purchase it from them?
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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AZPaul3 writes:
My hell no was more to the question, "SHOULD it be done?" I have no doubt that it CAN be done in many places. I wouldn't be surprised if there were places in the US where there are no "legal holds" to giving firearms to toddlers. The problem we are discussing in this thread is that the existing legal holds are woefully inadequate.
Barring any legal hold, hell yes, it can be done.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
quote:My first thought was that it was a bizarre end to a debate: reductio ad firearm.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Cat Sci writes:
The obvious point would be that weapons aren't appropriate in every situation.
Well, obviously guns are more effective weapons. What's your point?
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Theodoric writes:
By gun-nut logic, terrorists ought to have the right to bear arms against the government.
The whiskey rebellion would be a strange example for the gun nuts to use.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Theodoric writes:
I forgot that no American - not even a rabid terrorist - would dream of challenging the Holy Constitution.
They would have to show that they really aren't standing up for the Constitution and rule of law.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
dronester writes:
Eliminating cultures? Do you plan to involve IG Farben in that project?
... which could be better spent on eliminating oppressive and humiliating cultures that produce terrorism....
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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dronester writes:
"Eliminating cultures" sounded more like the former than the latter.
The west can continue spending billions of dollars bombing them, supplying the region with even more weapons, keep supporting human right violating dictators/nations (Saudi Arabia, Hussein, bin Laden, Gaddaffi, etc.,) or we can use the money to help build/support functioning democracies.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Omnivorous writes:
I'm not sure that splattering the wreckage of an airliner all over Manhattan is an improvement.
Given all that, why isn't it sensible to have a few anti-aircraft placements around a high profile target?
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Omni writes:
IF you can muster the political will to shoot hundreds of civilians out of the sky, you still have the problem of anticipating where the wreckage lands. I doubt that you can aim your collateral damage that accurately.
The goal is to prevent strikes on a densely populated central target. One assumes there will be fewer casualties in more thinly populated outlying areas by mounting defenses at the city's perimeter.
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