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Bob Bobber
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Message 114 of 280 (779953)
03-10-2016 12:53 AM
Reply to: Message 113 by Faith
03-10-2016 12:50 AM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
When all the angels sat in the sides of the north, they could produce enough light, to light that earth when God visit the earth. When one third of the angels left with Lucifer, he disabled the light source God use when he visit the earth.

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Message 116 of 280 (779955)
03-10-2016 1:42 AM
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03-10-2016 1:27 AM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
That is my point, God is the light source. The life he has within himself produce some kind of light that just shine through his body, because his body is composed out of spirit. Lucifer is Lucifer until wrong doing was found in him. And Lucifer was not sitting in the side of the north, he had a different function to the whole process.

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Message 118 of 280 (779957)
03-10-2016 1:54 AM
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03-10-2016 1:50 AM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
No, I said when God visited the earth, the angels in the side of the north was the earth's light source. When Lucifer disabled that light source, God could not visit the earth, he had to be it's light source.

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Message 120 of 280 (779959)
03-10-2016 2:17 AM
Reply to: Message 119 by Faith
03-10-2016 2:01 AM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
Let's call God El, but the problem El faces is having a relationship with the living beings on the earth, when El was the light source of the earth. Now El’s body is composed of a substance called spirit, and the life he has within himself produces some kind of light that his body cannot contain. His power may be everywhere, but not his body.
This is what Yahweh used in the garden to talk to Adam. Ezekiel, a prophet of Yahweh, he had a remarkable vision, he saw Yahweh riding on a kind of throne chariot. Yahweh’s enthroned above four magnificent creatures. Each of these has a human body and then four faces: the face of a human, the face of a lion, the face of an ox, and the face of an eagle. There are four huge wheels under this throned chariot, and they are said to gleam like beryl beneath a vast and awe-inspiring expanse or dome, which gleams like crystal.
Above that is the semblance of a throne that is like sapphire, and on the throne was the semblance of a human form that’s gleaming like amber, and its fire encased in a frame, which is radiant all about. This fire that’s encased, is in a cloud that contains or hides the fire that is Yahweh’s presence.

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Bob Bobber
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Message 122 of 280 (779961)
03-10-2016 3:51 AM
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03-10-2016 3:15 AM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
Yahweh was clearly established when the earth was in the second heaven. But in the first heaven we are dealing with El, and he does indeed have a body. Interesting how many religion teachings get blown out of the water. Study the different usages of the word 'spirit'.
Now El is going to create the earth in the middle of this structure (what structure), but El from his throne in the north of the north (what is the north of the north), he is going to be the light source of the earth. But how can El visit the earth and have a relationship with the beings living on that earth and still maintain the light source of the earth?
Edited by Bob Bobber, : No reason given.

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Message 124 of 280 (779964)
03-10-2016 4:48 AM
Reply to: Message 72 by Phat
03-09-2016 12:20 AM


Re: The Gospel According To Paul the Apostle.
It is cool how God can now totally accept people even though people are sinful, because all sin has been paid for once and for all. God is not looking at us in the practical since of our sinfulness, but in the identity of being in his son, that’s how we can be holy and without blame before him in love. 

Satan wants to blind people’s eyes to the truth of Paul’s good news. Satan is offering people a way to become righteous; to achieve a righteous standing before God, and he always attaches people’s performance; people’s fingerprints are found on Satan’s method of becoming righteous.

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Message 125 of 280 (779965)
03-10-2016 4:53 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by NoNukes
03-06-2016 11:20 PM


Nonukes, sorry it took so long.
It seems he did, but there are a lot of missing around going on, if you know what I mean. I took out something that makes no since, some kind of superiority teaching that seems to be added to Hebrews?
Hebrews 1:1-3:15;
From of old, Yahweh spoke to the Israelites fathers by the prophets in every manner, and in all ways; but in these later days, Yahweh has conversed with us, by his son; whom Yahweh has constituted heir of all things, and when Yeshua made a purgation of sins, then Yeshua sat down on the right hand of Yahweh. Wherefore, my brethren, who are called with a calling that is from heaven, consider this high priest of our profession, Yeshua the Messiah; because Yahweh has said, O, if you would but heed my charge this day; do not be stubborn as at Meribah, in the wilderness, when your fathers put me to the test, tried me, though they had seen my deeds.
Forty years I was provoked by that generation; I thought, they are a senseless people; they would not know my ways. Concerning them, I swore in anger, they shall never come to my resting-place! Beware, therefore, my brethren, lest there be in any of us an evil heart that believes not, and we depart from the living Yahweh; but we need to examine ourselves all the days, during the day which is called today; and let none of us be hardened, through the deceitfulness of sin; for we have part with the Messiah, if we persevere in this firm confidence, from the beginning to the end; as it was said, O, if you would but heed my charge this day. Do not harden your hearts to anger Yahweh.
Hebrews 1:4-2:18; 3:2-6 is what was left out?
I don't know where you stand on this subject, sorry for taking do long to answer you, it is a trippy subject.
Edited by Bob Bobber, : No reason given.

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Message 126 of 280 (779966)
03-10-2016 4:58 AM
Reply to: Message 123 by Pressie
03-10-2016 4:21 AM


when the earth was in the first heaven
It is fun, doctrines die hard when the first heaven is reasoned out?

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Bob Bobber
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Message 128 of 280 (779968)
03-10-2016 5:03 AM
Reply to: Message 127 by Faith
03-10-2016 4:58 AM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
My reasonings are sound so far, don't know it all, but it can be reasoned out. The age of grace is one thing, this is something else. You cannot drag religion into this, because this story is in the Bible.

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Bob Bobber
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Message 130 of 280 (779986)
03-10-2016 9:30 AM
Reply to: Message 129 by Faith
03-10-2016 5:21 AM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
I think I see why this is rubbish to you, would you be one of those three-in-oner's? But don't say there are two Gods, just he has two names, but El is his name in the first heaven.

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Message 134 of 280 (779995)
03-10-2016 10:45 AM
Reply to: Message 131 by ringo
03-10-2016 10:36 AM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
Once Lucifer took over the earth while it was in the first heaven, El was forced to light the earth while Lucifer and his clan did whatever they wanted. Forced in that sense?

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Message 135 of 280 (779997)
03-10-2016 10:46 AM
Reply to: Message 132 by ringo
03-10-2016 10:38 AM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
Not when the earth was in the first heaven, Lucifer caused that flood (Gen. 1:1).

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Bob Bobber
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Message 137 of 280 (779999)
03-10-2016 10:49 AM
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03-10-2016 10:46 AM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
Jesus said that Satan was a murder from the beginning. Beginning of what, he murdered the people on the earth while it was in the first heaven.

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Message 139 of 280 (780002)
03-10-2016 11:02 AM
Reply to: Message 138 by ringo
03-10-2016 10:54 AM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
Don't have a Bible with me. But that looks like the verse. Who was Satan's first murder victims?

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Bob Bobber
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Message 141 of 280 (780009)
03-10-2016 11:25 AM
Reply to: Message 140 by ringo
03-10-2016 11:14 AM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
Not made up, it is there. Lucifer took over that earth while it was in the first heaven and he flooded it, murdering everything alive on it.

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