Trump's order on immigration and the wacko liberal response

Well, here's the history as I've heard it, which you can hear about on the audio sermon below. Ireland was originally Christianized by an Englishman, Patrick, and developed a strongly evangelical faith, sending out missionaries themselves.Some centuries later the then-Catholic English king conquered Ireland under pressure from the Pope, and Ireland became Catholic. Twelfth century IIRC.Then the Reformation came along and England went Protestant. So did Scotland, and exchanges between Scotland and Northern Ireland mixed the two religions. England which by then was only nominally Protestant, saw political value in moving Protestants to Northern Ireland, and that happened and became the foundation of the Catholic-Protestant conflicts that have continued since. The IRA terrorist organization formed later and attacked the Protestants in the effort to bring the North under the Catholic government of the South.Eventually a nominally Protestant Loyalist group sprang up that retaliated with violence, but they were condemned by other Protestants. The violence has generally been initiated by the Catholics, and the audio report below claims suppression of the truth by the Catholics.I know there was terrible mistreatment of Ireland by the English in the famous potato famine. But I also know that the action by Cromwell against Ireland earlier, which was pretty severe, was nevertheless provoked by the Catholics who were attacking the Protestants, which is what Cromwell's action was intended to settle.So, what have I left out?Here's the sermon on the history of the conflicts that I mention above:
http://www.sermonaudio.com/saplayer/playpopup.asp?SID=121...Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I don't see any Christians on your statistics.The argument is that Islam's strategy for taking the world for Allah involves quietly waiting until it has the population and the strength to take over a nation it has settled, so your statistics are utterly irrelevant and misleading.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

False. Absolutely crucial. It is the ideology of Islam that seeks to take the world for Allah. Christianity has no such aim. When a Muslim acts to kill "infidels" it's because of the teachings of Islam. Anyone you want to call a Christian if only nominally Christian, not having the Holy Spirit, may do all kinds of violent things, but against the teachings of Christianity. A true Christian, yes that is the important category, does no violence because his religion teaches against violence. The distinction is crucial.The actual acts of violence by Muslims don't tell the whole story either. When Muslims are interviewed they agree in great numbers with jihadist actions and against the interests of any "infidel" nation they live in. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : clarify

The two ladies should really be George Soros and the leader of CAIR.

For a long time now, the "mainstream" cartoonists have geared their stuff predominantly to Leftist propaganda.

Here's what Politifact says about the comparison between Obama's and Trump's orders. You can go on to read at the link that they argue that Obama had good reason for it in his judgment. I think that is irrelevant. Trump is completely within the law to determine the necessity of the restriction. And the point of making the comparison is to try to answer the screaming Lefists who make it sound like it's a weird unheard-of decision on Trump's part when Obama identified exactly the same nations, and held up their travel freedom for 90 days, and Syrian travel freedom for six months. Trump is holding them all up for six months. There is really no cause whatever for all the clamor and disruptiveness; it's obviously political in the worst possible sense and hasn't a legal leg to stand on. I see no reference in that article to a difference in warning given, but that seems like a strange complaint after Trump spent months promising to do such things. I think it's just that the Left is determined to disrupt anything Trump does and tell lies about it to make the public believe he's at fault when he isn't.

Here's what Politifact says about the comparison between Obama's and Trump's orders. You can go on to read at the link that they argue that Obama had good reason for it in their judgment. I think that is irrelevant. Trump is completely within the law to determine the necessity of the restriction. And the point of making the comparison is to try to answer the screaming Lefists who make it sound like it's a weird unheard-of decision on Trump's part when Obama identified exactly the same nations, and held up their travel freedom for 90 days, and Syrian travel freedom for six months. Trump is holding them all up for six months. There is really no cause whatever for all the clamor and disruptiveness; it's obviously political in the worst possible sense and hasn't a legal leg to stand on. I see no reference in that article to a difference in warning given, but that seems like a strange complaint after Trump spent months promising to do such things. I think it's just that the Left is determined to disrupt anything Trump does and tell lies about it to make the public believe he's at fault when he isn't. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Soros buys them all. CAIR threatens them all. Your stuff is so demented these days I have to suspect that you're a paid stooge yourself.

Politifact said Trump's claim was correct up to a point. Then they went on to their opinion that the differences are great. I don't see it, as I said. Yes I should have quoted more, don't know why I didn't but I was having a lot of trouble getting anything to post at all.The point of posting that was to get the facts into the picture, they show the similarity of the basic facts quite clearly. I couldn't care less what Politifact thinks of any of it.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Who cares? I don't. The problems will be ironed out. Meanwhile the factual similarities are exactly as Trump characterized them.

You are all making mountains out of a molehill, which of course is one of the Left's standard tactics. THE POINT WAS TO SHOW THAT OBAMA ALSO LIMITED IMMIGRATION, BECAUSE THE PREVAILING LIE WAS THAT TRUMP WAS ACTING IN SOME COMPLETELY UNPRECEDENTED WAY THAT WAS UNFAIR TO REFUGEES. THE ESSENCE OF THE MATTER IS THE SAME IN BOTH CASES BUT NOBODY WOULD ACCUSE OF OBAMA OF SUCH PERFIDY, ONLY TRUMP. ALL THE REST IS NATTERING NITPICKING DESIGNED TO DISTORT AND DISRUPT. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

lLYING LEFTIST LOON,. rEAD MY PREVIOUS POST.

Of course I said nothing of the sort. Perhaps you should go see the psychiatrist.

No you can't read. Dr. A is lying about what I wrote and apparently you agree with the lie. It's not what I wrote, it's a poison-pen straw man.

I don't spin anything. But I'll take your question as asking how I see Soros and CAIR. Soros collaborated with the Nazis against his own people. I don't regard him as Jewish, he's a traitor, and he's now using his billions to destroy America and try to bring about a global government, which of course Trump is effectively combating, so he's now behind all the protests and the media attempts to bring Trump down.CAIR is a propaganda organization for the purpose of taking over America for Allah. I don't know how they are funded but Soros may be involved with them. Although Saudi wealth may be sufficient.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.