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Author Topic:   Exploring (mostly Cultural) Marxism in today's Left
Faith 
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Message 256 of 381 (813729)
06-30-2017 8:52 AM
Reply to: Message 253 by Tusko
06-30-2017 4:29 AM


Re: A Review of what Classical and Cultural Marxism have in common
Before commenting it would help if you knew something about what has been said before. Please go listen to the video in Message 185
People are incredibly ignorant about the phases and stages of Marxism. It long since stopped being primarily an economic theory and has set itself to kill western civilization. That was the goal of the Frankfurt School as they invented scheme after scheme to attack the west. It's all in that video and there's more in the article on political correctness (Message 220 and Message 226), and the other video, Message 207. It was Marxist Susan Sontag who may have been the first to say the white race is most evil thing that ever existed or something like that. abe: Wikipedia quotes her as saying "The white race is the cancer of human history."
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Message 260 of 381 (813733)
06-30-2017 9:36 AM
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06-30-2017 9:21 AM


Re: Once again, Faith presents no evidence that anyone controls her, censors her, enforce
Good for the Hungarian Prime Minister.
Of course you "disagree," sadly and dangerously.
Good for the Hungarian Prime Minister. There should be more like him.

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Message 262 of 381 (813735)
06-30-2017 10:24 AM
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06-30-2017 10:02 AM


Re: Once again, Faith presents no evidence that anyone controls her, censors her, enforce
What you are describing in such glowing terms is not political correctness, it's more like Christianity.
Sometimes I just have to think the Left deserves what it's going to get, and leave it at that.

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Message 265 of 381 (813741)
06-30-2017 11:53 AM
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06-30-2017 10:30 AM


Political Correctness again
Well I included a link plus a lot of text from the classical discussion of PC as Marxist in Message 220 and an edited version in Message 226.
Marxism to my mind can be boiled down to the creation of an enemy class versus a good guys class, creating class conflict. It doesn't analyze reality as it claims, it creates the conflict -- between their designated Oppressor and Oppressed, defined quite strictly by Marxists themselves. It's totally phony simpleminded history, which is discussed in the links posted above.
Classical Marxism has the proletariat against the bourgeoisie, while Cultural Marxism, and PC, has feminists and gays and now Islam as their Oppressed classes it calls people "racists" and "homophobes" and "Islamophobes" and so on instead of addressing reasonable discussion of related issues in society. It's all about fingerpointing and intimidation, nothing at all good, nothing at all to be compared to Christianity. It attacks PEOPLE rather than ideas, which is one of the main things that makes it evil. That's the reason for the millions murdered in Communist regimes, which will never be acknowledged by the Lefties who haven't yet seen the truth. Which is just about everybody at EvC.

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Message 267 of 381 (813746)
06-30-2017 12:00 PM
Reply to: Message 266 by JonF
06-30-2017 11:58 AM


Political Correctness is engineered class hatred
But it's not, that's just Marxist whitewashing propaganda.
ABE: If it were true at all, how do you explain the way Christianity is vilified by the Left, or now "white people?" No, the "politeness" which is really conformist intimidation, only applies to the "oppressed class" as falsely and tendentiously and politically defined by Leftists.
HERE's how it works: Remember Rwanda? The Hutus slaughtered the Tutsis after a history of no conflict. Because somebody got on the radio and told them that the Tutsis were "cockroaches" and didn't deserve to live. It was a Catholic priest who did that. He created the conditions for slaughter by defining one group as evil and the other as good. The more you can invent about how the bad guys have been unfair to the good guys the more of an emotional reaction you'll get. That's what Hitler did too. And it's what Marxism does. And it ultimately leads to murder.
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Message 270 of 381 (813752)
06-30-2017 12:13 PM
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06-30-2017 12:11 PM


Re: Political Correctness again
Those are vile lies, a lot of them from Leftist revisionist history, and you are now guilty of spreading them just as the priest did on the radio.

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Message 271 of 381 (813753)
06-30-2017 12:14 PM
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06-30-2017 12:12 PM


Re: Political Correctness again
So the ones you call the bad guys should be murdered, because of course if we "kick poor people in the face" and "take their health care away" we should be murdered. That's the formula. Doesn't matter if there's anything to your accusation, which there isn't, it's just another Leftist lie, the accusation is enough to target the group you define as the Oppressor.
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Message 274 of 381 (813758)
06-30-2017 12:17 PM
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06-30-2017 12:15 PM


Re: Political Correctness again
Leftist lie.

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Message 277 of 381 (813761)
06-30-2017 12:19 PM
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06-30-2017 12:16 PM


Re: Political Correctness again
You have a one-note history that ignores the long years of good relations between the whites and the Native Americans. Like the priest who whipped up the Hutus against the Tutsis you have created a bad guy that deserves to be killed according to your false history.
Leftist lies.
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Message 279 of 381 (813763)
06-30-2017 12:20 PM
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06-30-2017 12:20 PM


Re: Political Correctness again
Your ideology ends up advocating murder. Your very description of the evils against the poor calls for murder just as the propaganda against the Tutsis set them up for murder. Kicking the poor in the face? Pretty incendiary accusation. And it's a lie.
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Message 280 of 381 (813764)
06-30-2017 12:22 PM
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06-30-2017 12:17 PM


Re: Political Correctness is engineered class hatred
Blind too.

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Message 283 of 381 (813767)
06-30-2017 12:25 PM
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06-30-2017 12:24 PM


Re: And so Faith once again resorts to lying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Everything you've said is a lie. You are accusing people of evil deeds without any restraint whatever and that's a lie that can get people murdered.

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Faith 
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Message 284 of 381 (813768)
06-30-2017 12:26 PM
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06-30-2017 12:24 PM


Re: Political Correctness again
Then stop accusing people of "kicking the poor in the face," because that is an invitation to murder.
And accusing you of murder is no worse than accusing me of kicking poor people in the face and taking away their health care.
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Faith 
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Message 286 of 381 (813772)
06-30-2017 12:30 PM
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06-30-2017 12:29 PM


Re: Political Correctness again
You've bought a big fat lie based on Leftist bias. Get a clue. That's not what is going on.

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Faith 
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Message 289 of 381 (813776)
06-30-2017 12:32 PM
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06-30-2017 12:29 PM


Re: Political Correctness again
Prove it?
See Message 267

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