Message 204 of 283 (825102)
12-08-2017 4:02 AM
Reply to: Message 198 by Percy
12-07-2017 12:23 AM
Ninth Time, Percy
Percy responds to Phat:
If you click on “Rrhain posts only” and read all his posts in this thread you’ll see he has two topics, neither having to do with the topic of this thread (one is a moderation issue from 2008).
To use your words:
That's not true.
Seems like we have to repeat the process just like when you neglected to read what was happening on your own board. This seems to be a habit with you, Percy: You can't take any criticism of your actions, to the point that you will lie about things rather than simply do your job.
My first post on this thread, Message 36, was in response to Minnemooseus' post. We were giving the latest details on the 2008 election.
This continued on with:
Message 41 to Granny Magda saying that the length of the recount process hadn't destroyed Minnesota like the Republicans were claiming would happen with the Florida recount, Message 43 to RAZD giving the latest recount numbers.
Message 45 to RAZD discussing the NORC review of the Florida recount and the election calendar with regard to the President and the Congress.
Message 47 to Coyote referring to Franken as a "clown" and the importance of Congress actually taking Presidential offenses seriously.
Message 49 to Coyote's attempt to run away from his own argument (wherein I repeated his own words back to him, "Do you have anything constructive to pass on to us or is that all you've got?")
Message 52 to Coyote where he once again runs away (he claims he doesn't come to this site for "liberal talking points" and yet decides to enter a thread devoted to a liberal running for the Senate only to become shocked, SHOCKED that someone might espouse liberal philosophy in his general direction.)
Message 55 to Wounded King confirming that the recount was over and the Coleman lawsuit was beginning.
Message 160 where I asked you to be more specific about what you meant when you said, "I believe the women." It is where I gave details about something that happened to me which is nearly identical to the scenario that Franken has been accused of. You failed to respond.
Message 169 where I noticed that you failed to respond and asked you to respond. You failed to respond.
Message 170 to Phat where I said that yes, men are pigs, that this is not surprising to learn, and that I can only hope that this current moment won't be lost.
Message 171 where I once again notice that you haven't responded and asked you to respond. I asked you to think about your response regarding Keillor and why you can't apply that reasoning to Franken. You failed to respond.
Message 172 where I once again notice that you haven't responded but instead started engaging in hypocrisy where you demand Franken's immediate resignation while trying to maintain your own innocence regarding any similar actions you may have done that could come back to haunt you. I pointed out that those actions you're so worried about aren't "accidental," to use your words, but were actual and pervasive when you allowed rampant homophobia to run through your board, banned everybody who was standing up against it, and reminded you that you still haven't apologized (I didn't think I needed to point out that Franken has apologized, but I guess I do since you don't seem to understand how this is relevant.) I asked you to live up to your own standard of "Integrity, honesty, principle, virtue, truth, decency, goodness, virtue [sic], generosity, kindness, character." If you feel that Franken needs to go due to his actions, why are you still here? You failed to respond.
Message 182 where I once again notice that you haven't responded, reminded you of the scenario that happened to me, and asked you to respond. You failed to respond.
Message 184 where I once again notice that you haven't responded, reminded you of the scenario that happened to me, and asked you to respond. You failed to respond.
Message 191 where I once again notice that you haven't responded, reminded you of the scenario that happened to me, and asked you to respond. You failed to respond.
Thus, your claim that I "have two topics" is trivially shown to be false. I have quite a number of topics. Indeed, the most recent posts have all been focused on a single one, but that is primarily because you keep refusing to respond to direct questions. This could have been easily handled if you had simply bothered to respond.
But just like last time, you ignored it and here we are.
Combined with the combative tone I thought it best not to respond.
No, you thought it best not to respond because you would be caught in your own hypocrisy. The only reason it has become more and more intense in your direction is your transparent avoidance. This is all about your sanctimonious demands for Franken to resign, hiding behind a refrain of "I believe the women," without explaining what it is you mean by that statement given that you have another example staring you in the face.
As I said in that very first post to you, "So is it possible that things might be more complicated?" That you claim discussing the specifics of what Franken did and what it means is off-topic shows just how far down the rabbit hole of your own hypocrisy you have fallen.
But I'm willing to let your own actions go if you simply answer the one question that started it all:
It happened to me. Was I sexually assaulted, Percy?
If I wasn't, then by what justification do you call for Franken to resign?
This gets to continue and stop being about your pathetic attempts to avoid responsibility for your actions as soon as you engage and defend your own argument:
When you say, "I believe the women," what does that mean? It happened to me, Percy. Was I sexually assaulted? I have often said (including here...including in my original post to you that started this mess) that intent is not magic. Just because you don't mean to do something doesn't mean it didn't happen or that you aren't responsible for the damage that was done.
But it also goes the other way: Reaction isn't magic, either. Just because you have been wronged doesn't mean the person who did the wrong is the worst thing in the world. We can believe both people's sides of an argument and use that to determine how we respond.
Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.
Minds are like parachutes. Just because you've lost yours doesn't mean you can use mine.
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