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JonF
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Message 1596 of 2887 (830869)
04-08-2018 10:21 AM
Reply to: Message 1571 by Faith
04-07-2018 8:56 PM


Re: The tracks in the rocks
Tidal waves go very high onto the land,
After breaking.
even some regular tides do
Such as?
But the ocean level is also climbing during this whole period anyway, which would shorten the waves.
Why?
Yes I'm guessing
Fantasixing is the ,more appropriate word.

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JonF
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Message 1599 of 2887 (830872)
04-08-2018 10:23 AM
Reply to: Message 1572 by Faith
04-07-2018 9:02 PM


Re: Another part of the film: a dinosaur bed
What jumble of bones where? Mainstream geology and paleontology have no problem with a few catastrophies.
Sure, you can make up something to explain it, why not? No evidence is needed, just a plausible scenario, of course.
What jumble of bones where?
A plausible scenario is better than your impossible scenarios.
Your Fludde should produce one worldwide jumble of bones of all possible animals.
Well, it didn't.
If it had happened, it would have.
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JonF
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Message 1601 of 2887 (830874)
04-08-2018 10:28 AM
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04-07-2018 9:16 PM


Re: Another part of the film: a dinosaur bed
Lance formation. Parts of dinosaurs, thousands of dinosaurs.
And not a single animal that the mainstream says existed only before or after 66-69 million years ago. Why?
Why not normal deaths you ask?
Yes. Why not normal deaths?

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JonF
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Message 1603 of 2887 (830876)
04-08-2018 10:32 AM
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04-08-2018 10:28 AM


Re: The tracks in the rocks
[qs][qs]
even some regular tides do
Bay of Fundy?
Three miles horizontally. Not a lot .It has extrtemely high tides trapped.
But the ocean level is also climbing during this whole period anyway,
which would shorten the waves
.
Why?
Cuz they don't have as far to travel from the higher sea level.
Which has nothing to do with wavelength.
Yes I'm guessing
Fantasizing is the more appropriate word.
Guessing is all you guys do too, it's all that CAN be done with such things in the distant past.
Irrelevant ad hominem noted.
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JonF
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Message 1605 of 2887 (830878)
04-08-2018 10:37 AM
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04-08-2018 10:33 AM


Re: Another part of the film: a dinosaur bed
Lance formation. Parts of dinosaurs, thousands of dinosaurs.
And not a single animal that the mainstream says existed only before or after 66-69 million years ago. Why?
????? Why not? ?????
That's not an answer to my question.
Note that many different animals live in the same environments today and no doubt did then. Note that there are hundreds of thousands of animal found in the fossil record that are not found in the Lance formation. Was that a gated community of only dinosaurs?

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JonF
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Message 1621 of 2887 (830894)
04-08-2018 1:50 PM
Reply to: Message 1608 by Faith
04-08-2018 10:42 AM


Re: Another part of the film: a dinosaur bed
Most of the creatures found as fossils in the strata are found in groups.
Really? Show us.
birds of a feather flock together, and all the more under threatening conditions.
And exclude all other animals? So they did live in a dinosaurs-only gated community. Got it.

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JonF
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Message 1640 of 2887 (830924)
04-09-2018 10:21 AM
Reply to: Message 1638 by Faith
04-09-2018 8:52 AM


Re: Some of the evidence reviewed
One part of the film I haven't mentioned yet is the triceratops that has flesh on it. That can be explained away too by assuming contamination, but the demonstration definitely shows elastic flesh under a microscope, highly unlikely if the animal is millions of years old.
There was no "triceratops that has flesh on it." There was a triceratops in which some soft tissue cells were found in the bone matrix after removing the matrix with acid.
Please point out the "definitely elastic flesh" in photos 5-6:
I have a hard time seeing it.
Unlikely, maybe, but not impossible.

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JonF
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Message 1644 of 2887 (830928)
04-09-2018 11:08 AM
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04-09-2018 10:59 AM


Re: Some of the evidence reviewed
Your opinions do not affect reality.
I do admit you are an expert on believing impossible things.

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JonF
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Message 1649 of 2887 (830933)
04-09-2018 11:30 AM
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04-09-2018 11:18 AM


Re: Some of the evidence reviewed
You mean my demonstrable observations?
Not so much observations but the wild and unsupported claims you make about them. E.g. the many things you see that you claim are impossible in the mainstream scenario

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JonF
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Message 1650 of 2887 (830934)
04-09-2018 11:31 AM
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04-09-2018 11:28 AM


Re: Some of the evidence reviewed
The ordering of the fossil record is a demonstrable and demonstrated observation.
You are not justified to ignore it just because it so obviously falsifies your fantasy.

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JonF
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Message 1657 of 2887 (830944)
04-09-2018 12:02 PM
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04-09-2018 11:51 AM


Re: Some of the evidence reviewed
The whole idea of any relatedness between the fossilized creatures is purely the product of overheated imagination, there is nothing objective about it.
Your ignorance and prejudices do not affect reality. I would challenge you but you never respond to such challenges with anything more than unsupported assertions such as the one above.

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JonF
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Message 1678 of 2887 (830973)
04-09-2018 4:23 PM
Reply to: Message 1676 by Faith
04-09-2018 4:01 PM


Re: The Imaginary Fossil Order is a false interpretation
So you admit there is an order, you have no explanation of it, and you think the mainstream explanation is stupid.
Reality isn't affected.

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JonF
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Message 1723 of 2887 (831045)
04-11-2018 2:18 PM
Reply to: Message 1713 by Tangle
04-11-2018 12:20 PM


Re: The Imaginary Fossil Order is a false interpretation
She does not and cannot comprehend how radiometric methods differ in their principles but not in their results.

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JonF
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Message 1741 of 2887 (831073)
04-11-2018 5:05 PM
Reply to: Message 1725 by Faith
04-11-2018 3:14 PM


Re: The Imaginary Fossil Order is a false interpretation
Wrong. You have no clue about the wide range of independent dating methods that destroy your fantasy.
First, "radiometric dating" does not mean a dating method. It refers to a wide variety of inpendent methods based on different and independent processes so fundamental to the operation of the Universe that any change in them would have gigantic Univrese-wide effects. The near-perfect agreement between these different and independent methods (your pathetic attempts to claim otherwise notwithstanding) is solid evidence of their accuracy to anyone who knows enough to evaluate it.
In non-radiometric methods, thermoluminescence dating goes to 500,000 years. Various effects of cyclic astronomical processes such as Milankovitch cycles easily extend to 25-50 million years with progress on extending that continuing. Heliosesmology (sun quakes) go back to the origin of the a Solar system and yield an age of 4,570,000,000 years. Lake varves easily go back to 90,000 years (lake Suigetsu). Ice cores go to 160,000 years. Coral, stalactite, stalagmite growth rings. The list goes on and on.

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JonF
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Message 1742 of 2887 (831075)
04-11-2018 5:17 PM
Reply to: Message 1732 by Faith
04-11-2018 3:40 PM


Re: The Imaginary Fossil Order is a false interpretation
A motley collection of dates, and none of them justify the billions of years craziness.
A wide-ranging and consistent collection of thousands of dates covering from 10 years to billions of years.
Your ignorance does not affect reality.

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