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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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And they did that over and over and over again. Yeah, burrowing is very common in the animal world to escape rising water. Of course the trackways usually are walking, not running.
Plus pausing to compost to make paleosols. And growing various plants in those paleosols so they would be found with roots intact. And carrying entire forests, soil and roots and all, to drop on top of existing forests. 27 of them at Specimen Ridge.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
You said they don't. Just magma.
Name one stratum that spans an ocean bed When we drill into the ocean floor we see layers of rocks.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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Yeah, the water that was wild and scouring the rocks to dust carefully picked up the nests and carried them upright for miles. None of the gigatons of sediment in the water got caught in the nest.
You haven't made the case for why you claim our examples of sedimentary layers forming today are the wrong location, time, scale, and shape.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
I think the Redwall limestone, has been found on the Atlantic floor. You think wrong.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Why on earth would they have to be "grown?" Why not just killed and carried in the water to be deposited on the land? Leonardo da Vinci figured out that didn't happen back in the 13th century.
quote: http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/history/vinci.html You're a few centuries behind. Your idea that all sorts of delicate and brittle objects were carried around whole by the raging waters is the most ridiculous of all your siliy ideas.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
I'm sure there was reasoning behind it. I'm very aware of Hutton's reasoning. But you are obviously not aware of the reasoning of many others. Pre-1900 Non-Religious Estimates of the Age of the Earth Now you've got radiometric dating, hooray for you. And oodles of non-radiometric dating that agree. You have a real problem acknowledging that fact.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
The whole idea of landscapes in ancient time periods is impossible. You continue to skip the critical step of explaining why it is impossible.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
I guess I'm in the position of having to disagree with the great DaVinci. Seems to me the best interpretation is that the Flood carried the creatures to their burial place, picked them up alive, killed them, deposited them. He certainly was bright enough to figure out that a flood cannot pick up whole formations and carry them elsewhere without extensive and obvious damage. There are no vast caverns of water under the surface. There is water trapped bound in other molecules, inaccessible and not formed by water from above the surface.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
No matter how good the other dating schemes seem to be, I'm not going to contradict God's word. ITYM "No matter how good the other dating schemes seem to be, I'm not going to contradict my fallible interpretation of what I believe is God's word."
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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Oh there's no doubt about what God's word says in this case. So many, many people doubt your fallible interpretation of what you believe is God's word. Including most Christians (no, you don't get to decide who is a "real" Christian and who isn't)>
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
The abundance of fossils alone IS evidence yet you all refuse to see it, which I think is bizarre. The evidence is the fossils, not your claims about them. It seems you are incapable of comprehending this. You need to explain why and how the abundance of fossils supports your claim that they they are more consistent with a fludde than the mainstream scenario. Including how they are distributed in the stratgraphy. And making up more ad-hoc fantasies is not support. We see the abundance and have an explanation which is consistent with all else scientific we know about the Universe.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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Oh, the abundance is probably consistent with a fludde. It's also definitely consistent with the mainstream explanation. So it's no basis for thinking one explanation is better than the other. So, unless you can make a rational argument that the abundance is not consistent with the mainstream explanation, it's a wash and discussing it is fruitless. BTW depreciating isn't rational argument; don't say "stupid", "silly", "ludicrous" or the like.
The distribution , now that's a different story. Again we have an explanation which is consistent with all else scientific we know about the Universe. You have "no known physics can account for it but something must have done it". We know a lot of physics. There's good reason to believe only direct Divine intervention could produce what we see by a fludde. There our explanation clearly is better, and the distribution of fossils is an observed fact that cries out for explanation.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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Has it occurred to you that there might been too many organisms in the fossil record to be explained by the fludde? Your scenario may require more life at one time than would fit on the planet?
Shells and the Biomass of Earth: A serious problem for young earth creationists:
And if you are going to keep saying things like this would require divine intervention, which it wouldn't Then what did it? Oh, you have no answer, right? Physics and chemistry, of which we know a lot, couldn't. What else is there?
I'm going to keep pointing out that the standard interpretation is indeed ridiculous,. Standard Faith meaningless noise. I told you that insulting the mainstream interpretation is fruitless. Of course, you have no evidence or argument against the mainstream interpretation, so insults are all you have. Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
There are lots of YECs who are working on proving the Flood. FROM THE PHYSICAL EVIDENCE. That's science. Name some and link to their work. All I've ever seen are pitiful attempts at apologetics.
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