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Tangle Member Posts: 9514 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.8 |
Oh, good grief...
Sounds travels through a medium by vibration. The medium can be anything that has atoms, air, water rock, bone, space suits....whatever. Cochlear implants work via bone conduction. Here's a transcript from Apollo 17: Geology Station 2 143:29:03 Cernan: Now, I want to try to take this piece off first. (Pause as Gene hammers) 143:29:10 Schmitt: Pretty hard, isn't it.[Hammering sounds - a soft "plock" - can be heard through Gene's suit. He takes seven whacks at the top of the boulder on the east end.] [Cernan - "Although we can hear on the tape that the microphone in my suit was picking up the sound of my hammering, I don't ever remember hearing it. I could certainly feel it; and I've always contended that it's a very fine line between hearing noise and feeling noise. With that hammer, when you hit something the shock went through your whole body; but I'm not sure I ever heard the noise, probably because my ears were covered with the Snoopy helmet."] [What seems likely is that, when Gene hits the rock, the hammer rebounds against the palm of the pressurized glove, creating a sound wave in the suit loud enough to be picked up by the microphone at Gene's lips. In brief, the suit acts like a drum.]Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
That's pretty ;much what I already said, and then it turns out it was the same answer given by others, but then it got answered in turn in that video which I guess you didn't check out. All mediums don't transmit sound exactly the same way. A drum won't transmit the sound of metal clanking on metal.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
jaywill writes:
You should try reading my post before replying to it. I didn't say anything about recorded sounds or the ISS. And your specific solution for the problem of the recorded sounds which are NOT typically present on the ISS is ___________________________ ? What I said was, "Sometimes it's hard to tell the con-men from the rubes. The con-man's greatest asset is the rube who truly believes." I was referring to your stance on the "end times". You can be either the con-man or the rube.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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LamarkNewAge Member Posts: 2424 Joined: Member Rating: 1.2 |
Why aren't they believed on that issue?
Since everything they say is taken as unquestionable authority on the moon landing. (Why a double standard?) I might have to finally post a UFO thread. (in a few weeks perhaps) Edited by LamarkNewAge, : No reason given.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
Astronauts (more than any group) testify to seeing unmistakable UFOs. Astronauts testify to seeing unmistakable Unidentified Flying Objects (UUFOs). Right.What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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jaywill Member (Idle past 1970 days) Posts: 4519 From: VA USA Joined: |
quote: Probably, I don't get all of this. "rube" ? What is it that you think you have that I would possibly want to "con" you out of? Do you think I want your money ?Is it allegiance to me personally, I want to "con" from you ? Or is it that I want to "con" people into loving the Lord Jesus Christ? What do you have that you think I want to CON from you ?? Edited by jaywill, : No reason given. Edited by jaywill, : No reason given. Edited by jaywill, : No reason given. Edited by jaywill, : No reason given.
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jaywill Member (Idle past 1970 days) Posts: 4519 From: VA USA Joined:
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When the Son of God appeared on earth the first time, it was to sow Himself into some people. That is to dispense His divine life into their life for a combiningand union of the divine with the human.
This life produces a new humanity. This new humanity is meant to grow, develop, mature, and ultimately to reign - regaining all that was lost in Adam's fall yet going on BEYOND that fall as well. When Jesus came the first time its was to SOW Himself into man that God and man might be mingled. This life is supernatural and must be cultivated and grow in men and women in the proper environment. Throughout the ages God has been doing precisely that with some who cooperate with His indwelling, implanted life. When a critical mass of such cooperative saved people is reached Christ will come back physically to earth to assign them to regain what was lost on the fall of Adam, They will reign as God-men with Christ. Christ is not coming back because men increase in knowledge.Christ is coming for the growth of this spiritual life in people. It is not the bulk increase knowledge which is prompting the coming of Christ.And that includes Bible knowledge or science knowledge of church history knowledge or knowledge of doctrine or creeds. What is wooing Christ back is primarily a growing love to life by Him and unto Him. Some have died growing into this maturity. Some will be alive at the time of His return having grown in this union with Him.
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Tangle Member Posts: 9514 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.8
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Please take your pulpit and preach your magical nonsense elsewhere.
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Interesting. Is that Witness Lee? Or Watchman Nee?
I think of salvation as regeneration of the spirit we lost at the Fall, never thought in terms of a literal sowing of the divine nature into us.
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: I think of salvation as regeneration of the spirit we lost at the Fall, never thought in terms of a literal sowing of the divine nature into us. But there is no Fall in the Bible and what is in the Bible is God saying that eating the fruit from the Tree of Knowledge made man more like God; just like the serpent said it would.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
This states the Fall:
Romans 5:12 as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men...
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
No, that states a totally unsupported assertion by Paul. It does not support a Fall at all. Nor is there any evidence in the rest of the Bible to support his assertion.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
jaywill writes:
As I said, sometimes it's hard to tell the con-men from the rubes. Maybe you're trying to con yourself into believing in the easy-way-out Christianity that you preach. What is it that you think you have that I would possibly want to "con" you out of?And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
The Bible is pretty ambiguous about whether the sins of the father should be passed on to the children. Exodus 34:7 says yes, Deuteronomy 24:16 says no, etc. This states the Fall:Romans 5:12 as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men... And our geese will blot out the sun.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Romans 5:12 is quite unambiguous in the case of Adam
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