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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
Hey, you haven't told us why you were telling untruths.
Here is one of the untruths you wrote:
Porkncheese writes: That's not true. ToE says that evolution occurs through natural selection acting on random genetic mutation of DNA. This calls for several failed mutations to occur before one is advantageous enough to persist. Why are you so economical with the truth?
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined:
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I was also wondering whether porkcheese considers it a sin for people to be growing older and also being married while doing it? My thoughts when I read that were: WTF? WTFF?
Then I also wondered what that has to do with ToE? Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.
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caffeine Member (Idle past 1053 days) Posts: 1800 From: Prague, Czech Republic Joined: |
Fascinating as all this pop psychology and culture-warring is; I think that's what the Coffee House is meant to be for. Anyone have any thoughts on the formation of functional proteins?
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined:
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Bacause it's fun and unfortunately that troll does represent the normal "thinking" of millions of people.
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
With Chemistry 3 officially behind my name I more-or-less know what proteins are and more-or-less know how proteins are formed. Basic chemistry.
What a "functional protein" is in a biological setting, I haven't got the foggiest. Off to coffee house, I guess. Edited by Pressie, : No reason given. Edited by Pressie, : No reason given. Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.
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Tangle Member Posts: 9512 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.8
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P&C writes: 100 scientists were surveyed and askedWhat are the chances of ToE being completely correct? Answers varied from 0% to 100% Varying levels of FAITH as some BELIEVE it more than othersHardly a science when they can't even agree on it One of the promises you made to us (and immediately broke) was that you'd present your arguments to the highest scientific standard. A very basic of this is to to properly reference your source. So you'll see this a lot... Source pleaseJe suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
I don't think that Porkncheese would be too appreciative when his/her sources are investigated for neutrality...
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Stile Member Posts: 4295 From: Ontario, Canada Joined:
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Diomedes writes: Folks, why are you feeding this troll? Shhhhhhh...He hasn't yet figured out that we're the ones trolling him. He's a classic case-study.I thought they all went into hiding like flat-earthers.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1433 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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... While we took some science courses in school and my job does involve using scientific principals, engineering is not science. ... I like to say that science is the art\process of understanding the diversity of the universe Engineering is the art\process of making practical use of scientific knowledge. Using science procedures to , for example, test samples of steel to ensure they are within design specification means using science procedures, but it doesn't make engineering A science. Enjoy Edited by RAZD, : .by our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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Phat Member Posts: 18348 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Had to look that one up! Urban Dictionary
And or those of you who want to ban anyone for unprofessionalism,(aka trolling) my philosophy is to let them rant for a limited time and see if they graduate to being another old EvC Member with a boring life! I keep an eye on them though. Porky was nice to me in early replies, so I cut him a bit of slack. He does seem to be mindlessly ranting lately, though. Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
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Taq Member Posts: 10084 Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
Porkncheese writes: Atheism. The mindless destruction of western civilization Atheism has nothing to do with the theory of evolution.
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Diomedes Member Posts: 996 From: Central Florida, USA Joined:
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I like to say that science is the art\process of understanding the diversity of the universe Engineering is the art\process of making practical use of scientific knowledge. Using science procedures to , for example, test samples of steel to ensure they are within design specification means using science procedures, but it doesn't make engineering A science. I have a degree in electrical engineering. I am looking at my diploma right now; its hanging on my wall adjacent to my computer. It says the following: Bachelor of Engineering ScienceElectrical Engineering I had always considered engineering a science. When I was studying at university, four year degrees often carried the qualifier 'BSc' (Bachelor of Science) qualifier while three year degrees were 'BA'. (Bachelor of Arts) I admit the notion is a little confusing. Especially when one is familiar with the 'STEM' acronym: Science, Technology, Engineering, Math. Which would seem to demarcate engineering and math from science. I think its likely the word 'science' is being somewhat overloaded, which is causing a bit of a problem. I often looked at engineering as a discipline which utilized various practical techniques to employ scientific concepts and principles. One could argue that makes it different. But being that one can get a PhD in engineering leads me to believe it technically could be a science per se. Computer science is another example: would that really be a science per se? I guess it really comes down to definitions. At a its core definition Webster's says this:
quote: I honestly could go either way on this one. But I may just have to defer to what my diploma says.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
Computer science is another example: would that really be a science per se? I guess it really comes down to definitions. Political science is the one that makes me roll my eyes. From Wikipedia:
quote: What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Taq Member Posts: 10084 Joined: Member Rating: 5.1
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Diomedes writes: I think its likely the word 'science' is being somewhat overloaded, which is causing a bit of a problem. I often looked at engineering as a discipline which utilized various practical techniques to employ scientific concepts and principles. One could argue that makes it different. But being that one can get a PhD in engineering leads me to believe it technically could be a science per se. The distinction that most people are making is between theory development and applied theory. The experiments that Maxwell did to figure out how eletromagnetism works is theory development. Applying those principles to build a circuit is applied theory. Figuring out how the universe works is "science". I would also agree that it can be an arbitrary distinction. There is a lot of theory development going on in materials science, for example. The main question to ask is if your work is giving us new knowledge about how the universe works, or are you using that knowledge to build new things.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5952 Joined: Member Rating: 5.2
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The communists in your list had a religion: communism.
Hitler was not an atheist. He was Catholic and most of his followers were Christians. Furthermore, they were creationists. Therefore, by your reasoning all Christians are evil, especially creationists.
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