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Author Topic:   Beneficial mutations do they exist ?
Davidjay
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Message 1 of 6 (808065)
05-08-2017 11:38 AM


Evolution is supposedly based on the principle or truth or fact that eventually, within an undetermined amount of time, a new beneficial, viable mutation comes into being and is selected by the environment.

They call them beneficial mutations. So lets discuss whether they exist, for if they dont exist and it is a myth or untruth then all of evolutionary theory is a myth or an untruth.

Lets discuss this, in its own thread.... as it is fuindamental to the theory of Evolution.


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

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05-08-2017 12:00 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Davidjay
05-08-2017 11:38 AM


Learn first
Since you have demonstrated no ability to carry on any discussion at all I don't think anything more of yours should be turned loose until you learn how to carry on a debate.

In fact, I think you need to learn to read first which you have shown a remarkable inability to do.

If you had been reading you'd have seen the existing discussions of beneficial mutations. You would also not make the (somewhat subtle) mistake you made here: " a new beneficial, viable mutation comes into being and is selected by the environment.".

The boss will have the final say but I sure don't think you should even be here messing up discussion.


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Davidjay
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Message 3 of 6 (808080)
05-08-2017 12:15 PM
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Re: Lets discuss beneficial mutations, whats there to fear ?
I start discussions, and answer honest questions about what I write, and debate topics from every possible angle as debaters should do. Most evolutionary responders just give one line denials and attacks on the messenger rather than the message

So why the fear of discussing beneficial mutations? They are absolutely a cornerstone of evolution. Without them there can be no evolution mechanism, no driving force, nothing for selection to select.

You cant assume there are benefical mutations without discussing this cornerstaone and just ASSUME they must exist because evolutionists discuss them as if they exist.

Lets ask them questions about their beneficial mutations and debate with them. I am just a single poster. Open up the discussions so they answer questions about their doctrine, their theory. They have everything to gain, and should not be fearful of a single poster or many posters. Face their fears and encourage them to come and learn how to debate and discuss.

Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.

Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

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Message 4 of 6 (808353)
05-10-2017 10:58 AM
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05-08-2017 12:15 PM


Re: Lets discuss beneficial mutations, whats there to fear ?
Davidjay writes:

So why the fear of discussing beneficial mutations?

You're demonstrating an unwillingness to read what people write to you in the very reply to a message where AdminNosy said you don't read what people write. You have to remedy this problem before your threads will be promoted. AdminNosy told you there are existing threads on beneficial mutations. Here they are in case you can't find them yourself:

There are also many threads on mutations, let me know if you need help finding them.

If you can begin contributing constructively to discussions then your thread proposals might be reconsidered in the future.


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Davidjay
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05-10-2017 11:48 AM
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Re: Lets discuss beneficial mutations, whats there to fear ?
From what I have read thus far and been involved in, you definiterly need new input into old topics, as benefical mutations are still taken and perceived as a GIVEN, even today HEREIN.

I can surely easily find these so called GIVEN assumptions innumerable places on threads HERE, if you like me to find them for you.

But the choice is yours, if you think and declare beneficial mutations are off topic or off the new TOPIC list, so be it. Its your evolution board.

Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

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05-11-2017 8:07 AM
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05-10-2017 11:48 AM


Re: Lets discuss beneficial mutations, whats there to fear ?
Davidjay writes:

But the choice is yours, if you think and declare beneficial mutations are off topic or off the new TOPIC list, so be it.

Neither I nor AdminNosy said anything like that. You have a bad habit of misstating what people say. Dialogue with you is proving impossible. Closing this thread down.


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