Casualty of faith healing - Madeline Neumann

SCOTUSThis was a case in which a guardian had a minor child distributing religious literature in violation to Massachusetts State law.

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But the family itself is not beyond regulation in the public interest, as against a claim of religious liberty. Reynolds v. United States, 98 U. S. 145; Davis v. Beason, 133 U. S. 333. And neither rights of religion nor rights of parenthood are beyond limitation. Acting to guard the general interest in youth's wellbeing, the state, as parens patriae, may restrict the parent's control by requiring school attendance, [Footnote 9] regulating or prohibiting the child's labor [Footnote 10] and in many other ways. [Footnote 11] Its authority is not nullified merely because the parent grounds his claim to control the child's course of conduct on religion or conscience. Thus, he cannot claim freedom from compulsory vaccination for the child more than for himself on religious grounds. [Footnote 12] The right to practice religion freely does not include liberty to expose the community or the child
to communicable disease or the latter to ill health or death.

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The zealous though lawful exercise of the right to engage in propagandizing the community, whether in religious, political or other matters, may, and at times does, create situations
difficult enough for adults to cope with and wholly inappropriate for children, especially of tender years, to face. Other harmful possibilities could be stated, of emotional excitement and psychological or physical injury. Parents may be free to become martyrs themselves. But it does not follow they are free, in identical circumstances, to make martyrs of their children before they have reached the age of full and legal discretion when they can make that choice for themselves.

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This present case is not one of Religious Liberty but one of Religious Stupidity.This was the willful torture and murder of a young child, not out of malice, but out of sheer and utter religious stupidity.All the arguments about medical malpractice, vaccinations, parental rights and religious freedoms cannot hide the negligence and incompetence of the parents here. Nor can it hide the negligence and incompetence of the State for allowing such a thing to happen."Religious Liberty" is not a license to ignore the most basic responsibly this secular society places on a person, especially in regards to the welfare of a child.Society has not just a right, but an obligation, to protect a minor child from the zealous excess of the parent. Prince v. Massachusetts

Regardless of their “faith” their premeditation in not acting is key. Their willful disregard in not seeking medical attention for the child is negligence resulting in death. First degree is not the only class of murder. This also should be rather obvious. Irrelevant. Imperfect as our society and our courts may be we are a nation ruled by law not a nation ruled by zealous religious emotion. Again, irrelevant. Society has the obligation to intervene when the negligence of a parent endangers the life of a child whether that endangerment impacts the wider community directly or not.A nine-year-old child’s right to life takes precedence over the parents’ rights to be stupid. This is where we will disagree. Your rights to decide the best welfare of your child end where the right of your child to live begins. If the stupidity of my actions endangers the life of my child, or any child, or anyone else, then you have a moral obligation, let alone a legal one, to stop me. We do this every day. That’s what legislatures and courts are for.Unless you are suggesting anarchy, this is the best we can presently do.Edited by AZPaul3, : Poor syntax. Still not happy, but I'm out of time.

Then it's a good thing he wasn't on the court alone.Care to site the source, please?

Thank you MBG.Gotta problem though. In this message 50 I see Mr Jack responding to randman. And through the rest of the page of messages I find no reference to Justice Holmes. I've missed something. More help please?ABE: See, I told you I missed something.Nevermind.Edited by AZPaul3, : better information