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ohnhai
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Message 1 of 19 (306917)
04-26-2006 10:08 PM


Socialists: Give apes human rights
Spain Herald
The Spanish Socialist Party will introduce a bill in the Congress of Deputies calling for "the immediate inclusion of (simians) in the category of persons, and that they be given the moral and legal protection that currently are only enjoyed by human beings." The PSOE's justification is that humans share 98.4% of our genes with chimpanzees, 97.7% with gorillas, and 96.4% with orangutans.
The party will announce its Great Ape Project at a press conference tomorrow. An organization with the same name is seeking a UN declaration on simian rights which would defend ape interests "the same as those of minors and the mentally handicapped of our species."
According to the Project, "Today only members of the species Homo sapiens are considered part of the community of equals. The chimpanzee, the gorilla, and the orangutan are our species's closest relatives. They possess sufficient mental faculties and emotional life to justify their inclusion in the community of equals."
http://www.spainherald.com/3438.html

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ohnhai
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Message 3 of 19 (306922)
04-26-2006 11:14 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by Ben!
04-26-2006 10:57 PM


Was gonna use the thread title "Enter the Monkey" but that would have been wrong on SOOOOOOO many levels

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ohnhai
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Message 9 of 19 (307677)
04-29-2006 6:15 AM
Reply to: Message 6 by Modulous
04-28-2006 5:17 PM


Re: Whats the difference?
If an ape in your care (hard not to say pet) became terminally ill would you be allowed to take it to the vet to be ”put down’? or will anti-euthanasia laws prevent that? If not what implications would that have for humans?

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ohnhai
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Message 15 of 19 (307809)
04-29-2006 8:23 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by LudoRephaim
04-29-2006 1:51 PM


Just because Man and Woman have the same rights, doesn’t mean that Man is recognised as Woman or that Woman is recognised as Man. In the same frame giving the great Apes the same rights as a human, (albeit a minor) doesn’t not recognise them AS human. All is it does is recognise that, as some level, they deserve a similar level of rights and protection.

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