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Author Topic:   Apes are People too !
Modulous
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Message 6 of 19 (307503)
04-28-2006 5:17 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by kalimero
04-28-2006 4:11 PM


Re: Whats the difference?
What laws would you apply to all primates, and why?
Some of the laws are just not appicable.
Example: protection in the work-place.
Actually it should do. The laws are meant to give the apes the same rights as a minor, so they wouldn't be able to work (or they would within whatever child labour laws exist).

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Message 8 of 19 (307671)
04-29-2006 5:22 AM
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04-28-2006 8:20 PM


Re: Whats the difference?
ok that explaines it, but can you still if you think all rules should apply? If we are talking about children then how about education?
Well, right now it seems to be more about defending their interests than integrating them into society. I don't think they will be capable of understanding the law in its entirety (who knows, maybe they'll get the gist though), so we can't ask them to abide by it. We can't send the apes to school since the difference between human kids and apes is that human kids will not always be considered minors.

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Message 10 of 19 (307679)
04-29-2006 7:02 AM
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04-29-2006 6:15 AM


Re: Whats the difference?
If an ape in your care (hard not to say pet) became terminally ill would you be allowed to take it to the vet to be ”put down’? or will anti-euthanasia laws prevent that? If not what implications would that have for humans?
Given the wording as I've seen it, euthanasia laws would apply (does the law of that particular country allow the mentally disabled/minors to be euthanatized?).

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Message 12 of 19 (307682)
04-29-2006 7:36 AM
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04-29-2006 7:19 AM


Re: Medical testing?
Would this proscribe any medical tests that involve primates?
I believe so, since they would be minors they wouldn't be able to give informed consent to the tests. More information can be found at their website, here is their declaration. This isn't the Spanish Socialist Party's site, but I believe it shares the same kind of views, and may be the influence for the proposition.

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