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Author Topic:   how did our language derive from nothing?
ramoss
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Message 50 of 83 (323781)
06-20-2006 8:14 AM
Reply to: Message 49 by Rob
06-20-2006 2:03 AM


And what evidence do you have there is a 'spiritual foundation' for language?
I am not talking bible quotes here. This is the science section.

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Message 57 of 83 (324111)
06-20-2006 8:27 PM
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06-20-2006 6:16 PM


Re: The grammar organ - is there one?
The dialect in the southern states in the rural areas that are predominately black often is influenced by the lingquistic patterns of
africa. I would say that it the grammar patterns do exist, it just isn't the typical eurpopean/english patterns.

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ramoss
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Message 62 of 83 (324224)
06-21-2006 7:32 AM
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06-20-2006 9:34 PM


Re: The grammar organ - is there one?
After centuries of white influence and no contact with Mother Africa?
Yes.. indeed.
Ebonics is the same way. The cultural influence of the parents stays strong.
On edit: the people who study it call it 'African American Vernacular English', not ebonics.
Edited by ramoss, : added some extra info

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Message 64 of 83 (324611)
06-21-2006 9:53 PM
Reply to: Message 63 by Hyroglyphx
06-21-2006 9:14 PM


There are alot of enormous gulfs that stand in between even the most intelligent creatures and humans. Language is certainly one of them. The unity of language provides a basis for how all languages are derived from one. This corrolary is evident by the similarity of roots words and grammatical structure. The similarity of the Indo-European family of languages, as well as Semitic, Hamitic and Sino-Asiatic all seem to have some root language at the base. Certain philologists seem to think that it was likely Sumerian and that other ancient languages including Hebrew, Akkadian, Egpytian and Sanskrit were offshoots of the original Sumerian language.
I think you might be overestimating the gulf between men and other intellegnet being. Dolphins have sounds sequences that are names.

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