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Author Topic:   How does one distinguish faith from delusion?
Evlreala
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Message 6 of 279 (519228)
08-12-2009 1:13 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by themasterdebator
08-12-2009 11:48 AM


Re: counter evidence ignored
..and if everybody in the world is hearing voices that are not "real" are they not delusional by majority vote?
The state of being delusional is objective and not subject to our interpretation of the delusion. Recognising the delusion for what it is and reality for what it is not is an entirely different matter, but does not change the delusion from being what it is.
The law of identity applies.

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Evlreala
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Message 98 of 279 (519526)
08-14-2009 1:21 PM
Reply to: Message 96 by Rahvin
08-14-2009 12:35 PM


Re: Internal faith vs. externalized delusion
..Sorry for jumping in, but I'm a bit curious/confused..
dictionary.com writes:
faith  /feɪ/ [feyth]
—noun
1. confidence or trust in a person or thing: faith in another's ability.
2. belief that is not based on proof: He had faith that the hypothesis would be substantiated by fact.
3. belief in God or in the doctrines or teachings of religion: the firm faith of the Pilgrims.
4. belief in anything, as a code of ethics, standards of merit, etc.: to be of the same faith with someone concerning honesty.
5. a system of religious belief: the Christian faith; the Jewish faith.
6. the obligation of loyalty or fidelity to a person, promise, engagement, etc.: Failure to appear would be breaking faith.
7. the observance of this obligation; fidelity to one's promise, oath, allegiance, etc.: He was the only one who proved his faith during our recent troubles.
8. Christian Theology. the trust in God and in His promises as made through Christ and the Scriptures by which humans are justified or saved.
I'm wondering why exactally the second definition is being used for this argument when contextually the third makes more sense (or eighth if were speaking specificaly about the christian belief)?
With many (sometimes conflicting) definitions for words in the english language, one must often rely on context to distinguish which is applicable.
Am I mistaken in my understanding?
Edited by Evlreala, : clarification

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