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MatterWave Member (Idle past 5060 days) Posts: 87 Joined: |
sac51495 writes: Precisely. The question raised here is this: what/who controls the actions of the brain? What/who is it that controls the chemical reactions? Are the chemical reactions independent, or are they controlled by something else? And also, does the brain have an area in it that causes it to be self-aware? Or can the brain love somebody? I do realize that you are not a materialist (at least you don't seem to be), so this objection isn't pointed at you personally, but at the typical, materialistic atheist. Gotta love the infinite knowledge base of atheists. They have figured out everything. Why does this seem to remind me of the theists?
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MatterWave Member (Idle past 5060 days) Posts: 87 Joined: |
Dr Adequate writes:
It's funny how no atheist ever claims that. Perhaps you also believe them to be infinitely modest? "We don't know" once a year wouldn't hurt anyone, and i presume wouldn't ruin the atheist philosophy.
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MatterWave Member (Idle past 5060 days) Posts: 87 Joined: |
bluegenes writes: I'm an atheist, and I don't know what "the atheist philosophy" is. Can you enlighten me? Then you are not an atheist. Or are you an atheist that doesn't know why he is an atheist?
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MatterWave Member (Idle past 5060 days) Posts: 87 Joined: |
Straggler writes: I too am an atheist. Yet I tooam bewildered as to what an "atheist philosophy" is. Can you enlighten me too? Same as with above: 1. Ask yourself - "Why am i an atheist?". The answer is your atheist philosophy. If there are others that want to ask the exactly same question, just look at number 1, so that i don't have to copy/paste the same answer multiple times.
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MatterWave Member (Idle past 5060 days) Posts: 87 Joined: |
bluegenes writes: I don't think there is a philosophy that all atheists share. You don't believe in god, that's your philosophy.
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MatterWave Member (Idle past 5060 days) Posts: 87 Joined: |
bluegenes writes: It's surely easy to understand that it requires no philosophising to lack a belief in any supernatural beings for whose existence you have no evidence. No, it's not just lack of belief. You are not an agnostic, you are an atheist. If i asked you - "Does God exist?" you'd answer "No" which is a proactive belief that god doesn't exist. And that's your philosophy. Edited by MatterWave, : syntax
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MatterWave Member (Idle past 5060 days) Posts: 87 Joined: |
DrAdequate writes: Is not believing in the Tooth Fairy also a philosophy? If i said "the Tooth Fairy" exists(e.g. in some other dimension or reality or when i die), that'd be my philosophy.
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MatterWave Member (Idle past 5060 days) Posts: 87 Joined: |
Straggler writes: And if you don't believe the Tooth Fairy exists - Is that also a philosophy? How about Santa? Easter Bunny? Gnomes? So many philosophies....... You must be one hell of a confused philosopher. If you are not confused about existence and the reality you are in, this means that you are UTTERLY confused and misguided. I question the depth of your reasoning abilities and the naivety that atheists demonstrate on this forum.
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MatterWave Member (Idle past 5060 days) Posts: 87 Joined: |
Seriously, you'd call that a "philosophy"? Well, by convention on this forum we communicate in the English language. And the assertion of the existence of a single entity, whether it's the Tooth Fairy or the Eiffel Tower, is not a "philosophy" in the English language as it is spoken. That's not my philosophy, but someone else who truly believes in X,Y,Z might make it their philosophy. Just like you made it your own philosophy that something the size of an atom expanded dramatically to give birth to a self-aware entity like yourself. The Tooth Fairy building a universe is just as unbelieveable as a fluctuation giving birth to a self-aware "I". Your dismay is the result of taking your philosophy way to seriously, whereby forgetting that we practically know NOTHING about anything as far as reality, existence and self-awareness are concerned. Edited by MatterWave, : No reason given.
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MatterWave Member (Idle past 5060 days) Posts: 87 Joined: |
MatterWave writes: ... we practically know NOTHING about anything as far as reality, existence and self-awareness are concerned. DrAdequate writes: Speak for yourself. It's great that you know what information is, what time is, what matter is, what mind is, what space is, what self-awareness is, what free-will is. It's amazing that you seem to know what it is that actually makes the decisions in your head. I think you are God for knowing things that nobody else on this planet knows. Edited by MatterWave, : No reason given.
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MatterWave Member (Idle past 5060 days) Posts: 87 Joined: |
DrAdequate writes: "Just because I know some things that you don't know doesn't mean that I know things that no-one else knows. For that to follow, I would have to be the smartest person in the world and you would have to be the second smartest." How would i end up being the second smartest person, when in fact i DID very clearly state that i don't know what these concepts really represent(i.e. i am with the 6.6 billion people that don't know)? What you just said makes as much sense as 1+2=12, and based on the attitude on this forum, atheists are supposed to be regarded as smart even outside their deluded circles.
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MatterWave Member (Idle past 5060 days) Posts: 87 Joined: |
Huntard writes: There are quite a few people that know what those things are besides Dr. Adequate. Just becuase you don't know doesn't mean the rest of the planet is just as ignorant. Though I do suspect the majority is (regarding one or more of these subjects). This is ridiculous and depicts very correctly the basis for the atheist philosophy - a worldview based on obsolete 19 century concepts. The fact that you are certain you understand some of those concepts proves how deluded some of you(most?) are. No Nobel Prize winner would claim to know what ANY of those concepts ttruly represent, but obviously it's not a hindrance for the kindergarten you have setup here.
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MatterWave Member (Idle past 5060 days) Posts: 87 Joined: |
DrA writes: If you were really unable to understand my post, then I can only suggest that you read it again. It was very simple, and rather shorter than your expression of incomprehension. That post was supposed to be understood?
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MatterWave Member (Idle past 5060 days) Posts: 87 Joined: |
DrA writes: Only by a literate English-speaking person of normal mental capacity; not by illiterates, non-English speaking people, children, and fools. Okay i'll play - That would only be true if I were the smartest person on the planet, you the second and your grandma the third. Can you guess who is most likely the 4th smartest person? Edited by MatterWave, : No reason given. Edited by MatterWave, : No reason given.
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MatterWave Member (Idle past 5060 days) Posts: 87 Joined: |
DrA writes: So, to summarize. I posted a fact so clear, simple, and obvious that the only person on this thread who can't understand it is you. You posted complete nonsense of a very high order and purity.
DrA writes: You reply by posting a paragraph so utterly stupid, insane, and illogical that even you can see that there's something wrong with it. I answered with the same kind of nonsense that you are espousing.
DrA writes: And somehow you think that that makes us quits. It's very obvious that when you and your fellow atheists are cornered about their little theory(atheism based on misconceptions about the world), and are forced to acknowledge that you ACTUALLY know very close to NOTHING about matter, time, space, information, mind, free will, self-awareness you sidetrack the uncomfortable question with some super-duper nonsense about me being the second-smartest person in the world or me having antennaes or Einstein flying through the roof. This trend is very obvious throughout this forum - answer the uncomfortable question with another nonsensical question or run a tangent so that the question is 'forgotten'. You can't keep this delusion for long outside your own deluded circles. Your little philosophy of how the world is is wrong. Very very wrong. The small number of insights that we have been able to take into the nature of these concepts do not in ANY way whatsoever confirm the little model of the universe you have in your head. Edited by MatterWave, : No reason given.
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