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Topic: How did Adam and Eve know good from evil?
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killinghurts
Member (Idle past 5023 days) Posts: 150 Joined: 04-23-2008
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Message 75 of 227 (554230)
04-07-2010 12:43 AM
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Reply to: Message 73 by hotjer
04-06-2010 9:59 PM
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That's awful. How could anyone sell their own daughter? Disgusting.
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killinghurts
Member (Idle past 5023 days) Posts: 150 Joined: 04-23-2008
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Message 77 of 227 (554233)
04-07-2010 12:47 AM
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Reply to: Message 76 by Peg
04-07-2010 12:44 AM
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Elderly or minors, it's not morally okay to sell people. This just another example of how archaic and out of touch christianity is.
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killinghurts
Member (Idle past 5023 days) Posts: 150 Joined: 04-23-2008
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Message 79 of 227 (554250)
04-07-2010 1:54 AM
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Reply to: Message 78 by Peg
04-07-2010 1:40 AM
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"Peg" writes:
so why do humans still do it?
Probably for a multitude of reasons - profit, slavery, prostitution... what exactly is your point here? That's okay to do it because everyone else does?
"Peg" writes:
And not only in christian countries is it still practiced. You cant blame christianity for it.
Why not? Christianity teaches the bible. The bible is taught as the source of morality and the Bible says it OK to sell people, right? You somehow try to justify this bible passage by saying "how do you know they weren't grown women being sold?" I say WHO CARES? I say, NOONE should be sold. Full stop. That bible passage is morally wrong, face the facts and admit you are defending the indefensible.
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killinghurts
Member (Idle past 5023 days) Posts: 150 Joined: 04-23-2008
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Message 81 of 227 (554255)
04-07-2010 2:12 AM
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Reply to: Message 80 by Peg
04-07-2010 2:01 AM
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"Peg" writes: no, the point is that it was around long before the bible and it was being practiced by people who did not know the God of the bible. So before you want to blame christianity for slavery, just think about that.
Okay I have thought about it... Now you're saying because it's been around before the bible it's okay for the bible to condone it. It's still not right to sell people. No one should have the right to sell people. The bible appears to condone it, as the passage says... "..if you sell your daughter.." What gives? Does that teaching condone the sale of people against their will or does it not?
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killinghurts
Member (Idle past 5023 days) Posts: 150 Joined: 04-23-2008
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Message 83 of 227 (554264)
04-07-2010 2:46 AM
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Reply to: Message 82 by Peg
04-07-2010 2:32 AM
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"Peg" writes: among the isrealites, God had put a lot of restrictions and regulations on a practice that they had been doing for a long time before he came on the scene So, either God forces humans to live under his rules, or he has allowed independence from his rules. It cannot be both. Mankind are independent and therefore we are not living under Gods laws.
Perhaps I should rephrase my question as you seem to be incapable of answering it. Am I right in concluding, as an independent human the following: a) The bible is the source of all good morals, and b) the bible says: "... if you sell your daughter..." c) it's okay to sell my daughter. Edited by killinghurts, : format
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killinghurts
Member (Idle past 5023 days) Posts: 150 Joined: 04-23-2008
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Message 85 of 227 (554270)
04-07-2010 3:01 AM
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Reply to: Message 84 by Peg
04-07-2010 2:48 AM
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"Peg" writes:
if you cannot understand my explanation, then you dont need to rephrase your question.
I understand your explanation, but the explanation was not the answer to my question. It was mindless jabber, an obvious attempt to avoid the question. So now I am left to assume you cannot answer my question because you are simply too afraid to question your own belief system. I won't hold this against you, it's not an easy thing to wake up an realize your perfect world is not so perfect after all.
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killinghurts
Member (Idle past 5023 days) Posts: 150 Joined: 04-23-2008
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Message 86 of 227 (554272)
04-07-2010 3:07 AM
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quote:
Am I morally right in concluding, as an independent human the following: a) The bible is the source of all good morals, and
b) the bible says: "... if you sell your daughter..." c) it's okay to sell my daughter.
Since Peg is incapable of answering this question I put it to others in this thread. Anyone?
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killinghurts
Member (Idle past 5023 days) Posts: 150 Joined: 04-23-2008
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Message 110 of 227 (554398)
04-08-2010 12:39 AM
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Reply to: Message 109 by Peg
04-07-2010 10:45 PM
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They should have asked why no other animals were talking so why is this snake talking to us.
Then they should have asked what was in that pipe they were smoking.
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killinghurts
Member (Idle past 5023 days) Posts: 150 Joined: 04-23-2008
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Message 152 of 227 (555060)
04-12-2010 2:22 AM
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Reply to: Message 151 by Rrhain
04-12-2010 1:23 AM
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"Rrhain" writes:
You're considering performing Action X. Somebody tells you that it is beetaratagang to do it and clerendipity not to. Somebody else tells you that no, it's the other way around. Do you do it or not?
Excellent post. I think this is what the OP was getting at -> how can you make an informed decision without knowledge?
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killinghurts
Member (Idle past 5023 days) Posts: 150 Joined: 04-23-2008
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Re: A case study in "Refusal to Answer the Question"
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no one else can come up with an acceptable response to the underlying basis of Rrhain's question, either
There may not be an acceptable response, but a reasonable one would be that the story is a fabrication; a myth used to scare people into submission.
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