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Apothecus
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Message 160 of 227 (555152)
04-12-2010 1:50 PM
Reply to: Message 154 by Peg
04-12-2010 3:37 AM


A case study in "Refusal to Answer the Question"
Hi Peg.
This thread is fascinating.
Over the course of 150-odd posts you've been asked, nay, hounded to answer "the question". I get the impression that Rrhain (and others) have asked this in the past (of you, I'm sure, and others as well). It must smart a little for you (and Slevesque) to need to tap dance around the issue instead of just admitting you cannot answer "the question".
That is, you can't answer without compromising many (if not all) base tenets of your literalist dogma.
Rrhain's right: neither of you is stupid. So it is particularly telling that I can't imagine you don't recognize your dilemma and the indefensible position in which you find yourselves, at least from a reasonable, rational standpoint.
Don't feel bad, guys. As far as I can ascertain from an (admittedly) cursory search, no one else can come up with an acceptable response to the underlying basis of Rrhain's question, either. I'll leave it to you to think about the ramifications.
This inability and/or refusal to answer a simple question speaks volumes.
Have a good one.

"My own suspicion is that the Universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than we can suppose. J.B.S Haldane 1892-1964

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Apothecus
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Posts: 275
From: CA USA
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Message 165 of 227 (555261)
04-12-2010 9:46 PM
Reply to: Message 164 by killinghurts
04-12-2010 8:58 PM


Re: A case study in "Refusal to Answer the Question"
Hey KH.
There may not be an acceptable response, but a reasonable one would be that the story is a fabrication; a myth used to scare people into submission.
Indeed, but getting a literalist to see reason is like trying to herd cats.

"My own suspicion is that the Universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than we can suppose. J.B.S Haldane 1892-1964

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Apothecus
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From: CA USA
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Message 180 of 227 (555435)
04-13-2010 3:26 PM
Reply to: Message 166 by Peg
04-13-2010 1:45 AM


Re: A case study in "Refusal to Answer the Question"
Hi again, Peg.
You fail (or refuse) to grasp the point. Repeatedly and incessantly.
I'll quote Huntard since his is the latest oft-repeated question to you that still goes unanswered:
Huntard writes:
So again, would it help if Rrhain told you it was beetaratagang and I told you it was clerendipity? You'd have the same knowledge as Adam and Eve then. One person is telling you one thing, and another is saying the exact opposite.
God telling them they'll die (forget the time-frame, etc for now) if they partake of the forbidden pomegranate is directly contradicted by the serpent's statements. Not having eaten from the tree, how were they to know which statement was "good" and which was "evil"?
Adam and Eve were not left in the dark with regard to the consequences of eating from the tree. No one seems to accept that yet even though it is clearly stated in the passage.
And without adding "... there was animal death before the Fall ..." you have no basis that A&E knew what the consequences (i.e. "death") actually meant.
Hence, "the question" stands as posed, still unanswered. As it must remain, it seems.
Have a good one.
Edited by Apothecus, : speelig

"My own suspicion is that the Universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than we can suppose. J.B.S Haldane 1892-1964

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