"Thuglicans" and the Tea "Federation Party"

Hi Buz, thanks for the easy setup... ''I'm thinking about killing Michael Moore, and I'm wondering if I could kill him myself, or if I would need to hire somebody to do it. ... No, I think I could. I think he could be looking me in the eye, you know, and I could just be choking the life out. Is this wrong?''
Glenn Beck, responding to the question 'What would people do for $50 million?', 'The Glenn Beck Program,' May 17, 2005''Every night I get down on my knees and pray that Dennis Kucinich will burst into flames.''
Glenn Beck, in 2003"This president, I think, has exposed himself as a guy, over and over and over again, who has a deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture." - Glenn Beck, July 28 2009, Fox and Friends"When I see a 9/11 victim family on television, or whatever, I'm just like, 'Oh shut up' I'm so sick of them because they're always complaining." —"The Glenn Beck Program," Sept. 9, 2005"I think there is a handful of people who hate America. Unfortunately for them, a lot of them are losing their homes in a forest fire today." —on why people who lost their homes in forest fires in California had it coming, "The Glenn Beck Program," Oct. 22, 2007"So here you have Barack Obama going in and spending the money on embryonic stem cell research. ... Eugenics. In case you don't know what Eugenics led us to: the Final Solution. A master race! A perfect person. ... The stuff that we are facing is absolutely frightening." —"The Glenn Beck Program," March 9, 2009If you want examples of Beck's gullibility just go to Snopes.com and search "Glenn Beck".Some more examples, straight from the jack-ass's mouth:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DL5tjGK-x-gLimbaugh:
Rush Limbaugh Says Angry Blacks Are In 30 Year Plot To Train Black Children As Militants | Crooks and Liars"[Obama] wouldn’t have been voted president if he weren’t black. Somebody asked me over the weekend why does somebody earn a lot of money have a lot of money, because she’s black. It was Oprah. No, it can’t be. Yes, it is. There’s a lot of guilt out there, show we’re not racists, we’ll make this person wealthy and big and famous and so forth. If Obama weren’t black he’d be a tour guide in Honolulu or he’d be teaching Saul Alinsky constitutional law or lecturing on it in Chicago." - Rush Limbaugh, 6 July 2010

Thank you for a timely and important topic.The people in the Orange County protest are yelling "Go back home! Go back home!" to individuals who have lived in the USA their entire lives and who were attending a fundraiser to help the homeless in the USA.The first time I saw this video (on Facebook a couple of days ago) I literally felt sick to my stomach. I'm beginning to think that the union needs to end... that there should be two Americas; one that is a democratic, secular society based on equality, freedom and justice, and one for people like these protesters, "The Christian Republic of America" or something... grab your guns and your Bibles and head on down.

Ok I retract the comment about 9/11 families, that one does seem to be taken out of context. As for the rest? Sorry, nope. I fail to see how any of the others fail to be true representations of these hateful patriots' positions.As for patriotism, it is an evil of its own sort. Here are some of my favourite quotes in that vein:"Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it." - George Bernard Shaw"The love of one's country is a splendid thing, but why should love stop at the border?" - Pablo Casals"Heroism on command, senseless violence, and all the loathsome nonsense that goes by the name of patriotism - how passionately I hate them!" - Albert Einstein"Patriotism varies, from a noble devotion to a moral lunacy." - W.R. Inge"Patriotism is often an arbitrary veneration of real estate above principles." - George Jean Nathan.... Anyway, you asked for examples of hate speech from these two dimwits and I provided them. I'm sorry that you think they are somehow misleading.It is unfair that you somehow conclude that all I know about these two is from mine quoted stuff from critics - you are leaping to a conclusion with absolutely no foundation. I listened to Limbaugh practically every day in the early 90's, and EVEN THEN when I was admittedly intellectually underdeveloped, even then I remember thinking "Whoa, Rush! How did you get from point A and point B to conclusion C?? Madness!"As for Glenn Beck, I've watched as much of his programming as I can stomach. He's more of an idiot than anything, which is a sad comment on American viewers given his ratings. He is literally seen as a laughing stock on this side of the pond, which, I know, you could care less about. USA! USA!

Hah, thanks for the maps RAZD.I favour the first one where Texas is a republic, separate from the southern states. At least then I could hold out hope that my family, all of whom remain there now, might be saved from the good 'ol boy mentality.

Brilliant. This perfectly captures my personal experience with many American family and friends. If our side (usually Republican since I'm from Texas) said it, it must be true!I'd be remiss if I didn't point out that I have some Texan friends who don't trust any of these guys - one of them admitted to me that he reads BBC world news instead. Probably not a completely objective source either, but undoubtedly far less biased than good 'ol Fox Spews.

And there you have in a nutshell (wonder where that expression came from?* gotta go look that up) what's wrong with the news media today. There is no accountability. Beck and Limbaugh will continue to spew their nonsense, and I'm sure there are left-leaning sources that are spewing nonsense as well, and they can continue to do so with almost universal impunity. As a friend of mine said, "I wish there was something we could put in the water to make people smarter and more sceptical".*

Very good point. How young is TOO young to teach skepticism/scepticism? (oh screw it I'm in Britain now I'll use their spellings - i.e. scepticism... which just doesn't look right lol)Someone (probably numerous people) have said "We should teach our children how to think, not what to think." And yet we don't. Primary school tends to be rote learning, or at least it was when I was there.The few times that I actually enjoyed primary school was when I had a "eureka" moment - for example when my mathematics teacher convinced me that multiplication was easy if I just imagined it as stacks of things. 5 x 10 = five stacks with 10 things in each stack.But your post is probably a good intimation of why so many people latch onto an ideology such as that expressed by Beck or Limbaugh and then just roll with it. Perhaps their minds are wired to think that if something is said enough times, it must be right, and it should be logged in the 'ol noggin as a fact.By the same token, the last sentence of your comment "then we'd have 5th graders questioning mommy and daddy when they make claims without reasoning, and we can't have THAT!" could be applied to the masses watching Fox today. Perhaps they are satisfied to be spoon fed their knowledge from a single, biased source, rather than having to get off their butts and fact-check.

Beck's time at the blackboard may be drawing to a close!Glenn Beck's future at Fox News under threat, according to NYT | Glenn Beck | The Guardian ... and the original NYT article...Fox and Glenn Beck Stare Into a Dark Future - The New York TimesI like the closing statement of the UK Guardian article "In any case, if Fox News does dump Glenn Beck, then look forward to Beck outlining the mother of all conspiracy theories. He's going to need a bigger blackboard." - Richard Adams, guardian.co.uk

I think this might be a good thing... let's call it the Palin effect (which it seems is already widely in use lol).... i.e. to bring Alex Jones on board would further alienate anyone remotely reasonable and drive Fox's ratings down by driving away all but the most extreme nutjobs (at least during his time slot).I agree with you about his rationality though, Jones seems ready to believe and regurgitate any ludicrous notion that involves the enslavement of the masses under the fascist banner of the Illuminati or NWO. I guess this is what happens to you if you have #tigerblood and are #winning.Edited by Briterican, : Clarification.

Guess what Mr Patriot... I went through that door 8 years ago. I love America and I don't understand where you got the idea that I don't... I was quite clear in stating that it's the "grab your guns and Bibles and come on down" part of America that turns my stomach... the hatemongering hillbillies that you apparently proudly associate yourself with. Do you realise how self-righteous and condescending you come off? WOW lol. Childishly condescending.