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crashfrog
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Message 13 of 127 (607725)
03-06-2011 12:46 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by Buzsaw
03-06-2011 9:36 AM


Re: Good Ol' Buz,
People like Rush and Beck are sentinels sounding the alarm of impending threats to our freedoms, doing a whole lot more than you or I could have in order to preserve the unique freedoms afforded in America.
Could you identify even a single "impending threat to our freedoms" that either Rush or Beck were able to do something about? Something that wasn't just a complete conservative fever dream, like "death panels", but something that was a legitimate threat to American freedom that they were able to forestall.
What about the legitimate threats to American freedom that Rush and Beck have been fore-square in support of, such as the rendition, torture, and detention without trial of American citizens? For instance, what are the thoughts of Beck and Rush on PFC Bradley Manning, currently being held and tortured by our own Army without trial?

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crashfrog
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Message 18 of 127 (607740)
03-06-2011 2:49 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by Buzsaw
03-06-2011 1:06 PM


Re: Hate speech is Fox's forte
I don't see any blatant falsehoods among your examples; mostly mine quoted out of context.
The question wasn't whether they say false things (though they do); the question was whether they promulgate hate.
quote:
''I'm thinking about killing Michael Moore, and I'm wondering if I could kill him myself, or if I would need to hire somebody to do it. ... No, I think I could. I think he could be looking me in the eye, you know, and I could just be choking the life out. Is this wrong?''
Glenn Beck, responding to the question 'What would people do for $50 million?', 'The Glenn Beck Program,' May 17, 2005
Let's get specific. Do you think that Glenn Beck doesn't actually hate Michael Moore? Again the question is not whether you think such hate would be justifiable, but whether it exists. When Glenn Beck volunteers that he would murder Michael Moore for money, do you think that indicates hatred? Or do you think he's just joshin' an old friend of his, or something?
rather than from listening consistently to all of the pertinent knowledge which these American patriots reveal.
As a matter of fact, Buz, I listened to both Rush and Beck for a period of several continuous years, each. Daily. So I have ample personal knowledge that these statements, far from being out of context, are actually accurate representations of the material promulgated by these entertainers.

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