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anglagard
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Message 23 of 76 (658644)
04-07-2012 4:52 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Tangle
04-06-2012 4:47 PM


Such Certainty
I sure wish I had half the certainty as most respondents to this thread.
This deity is all over the map from GDR's loving father to Huntard's psychopathic monster. And the afterlife indeed, everything from jar's Socratic academy to Buzsaw's pimp palace of eternal bling.
Looks like a lot of what is referred to in psychology as projection.
Have to go with jar on this one, which god?
All I can say is I hope you get what you want out of this deity, perhaps getting what you want is the trick question of the day, paradise or damnation, your call.
Well, except Huntard, I wouldn't wish his interpretation as that evil bastard of the OT on Saddam Hussein.
As for me, I just don't know. Is truth beauty, and beauty truth, as Keats would say, or is the whole deal just an accidental unfolding of natural law, as Dawkins might say?
Hell, you got me. (if any purported deities are listening, please disregard any literal interpretation of that last sentence, am only expressing my uncertainty due to a rather odd lack of information, as per the rough outline of the OP).
So, please let me know if you have some secret esoteric knowledge since I am as yet unaware. Otherwise, no absolute certainty in this corner.

Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider. - Francis Bacon

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anglagard
Member (Idle past 866 days)
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From: Socorro, New Mexico USA
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Message 37 of 76 (658674)
04-08-2012 4:28 AM
Reply to: Message 34 by Tangle
04-08-2012 3:03 AM


Re: think about this
Perhaps you are unfamiliar with petrophysics, he is quite intelligent and apparently quite wealthy, a point which he finds no problem in continuously reminding us mere mortals.
However, he also claims to have some form of magical power that also makes him a ball of insufferable hubris. I find it rather appropriate that the bunny went down the rabbit hole, given that I am posting on Easter. Hats off to both Harvey and Donnie Darko.
Now as to the OP, there is both a lot more and a lot less, it is up to us to figure it out, depending on perspective. I think GDR has done a decent job of defending Christianity and have nothing to add other than to say, as Joseph Campbell would, religion is not a one party state.

Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider. - Francis Bacon

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anglagard
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Message 38 of 76 (658677)
04-08-2012 7:01 AM
Reply to: Message 27 by petrophysics1
04-07-2012 5:44 PM


Re: think about this
petrophysics1 writes:
I don't know about you, but do you think it wise to run and operate your life on the opinion of a 14-15 year old?
Not known for their mental ability, knowledge, or psychological maturity. Maybe think about it.
Indeed, I don't know about you.
Let me remember, 15 years old, summer 1972.
Did a bit of reading back then. Spinoza - complete works, Kant - Penguin condensed, Locke, Hume, Berkeley - Britannica Great Books, Hegel as well. And then Santayana , Gibran, complete Shakespeare, and indeed for better or worse even a considerable amount of Ayn Rand. That 1200 pages of Les Miserables, well, a bit of recreational reading is good for the soul.
Yeah, one hell of a nerd, but as nerds go, I would pit myself at 15 against 90% of so-called adults.
Don't you find the contradiction between my previous post and this one a bit ironic, I sure do.

Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider. - Francis Bacon

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