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Does exorcism work?

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Message 10 of 57 (642213)
11-26-2011 5:37 PM 		Reply to: Message 9 by Buzsaw
11-26-2011 5:24 PM

Whoever heard of a Buddist, Muslim or Pagan exorcist casting out anything? As per the NT, Jesus said demons will not cast out demons.
So Buddhists, Muslims and Pagans are demons?
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The only recorded historical exorcists that I am aware of were the Biblical apostles who cast out demons.
Historical? Really? Can you provide the historical sources for this?
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11-26-2011 8:58 PM 		Reply to: Message 14 by Buzsaw
11-26-2011 8:21 PM

If that isn't what you meant, then you need to write more clear. Because that is what I think anyone would get from what you wrote.
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lets break it down.
Whoever heard of a Buddist, Muslim or Pagan exorcist casting out anything?
Here you state that it is ridiculous to think those groups could cast out demons.
The next sentence seems to say why it is ridiculous.
As per the NT, Jesus said demons will not cast out demons.
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Cause they are demons. That is what those sentence say when read together. If you meant something else you should hae written something else.
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Oh btw, still waiting for the historical records you mentioned.
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11-27-2011 8:40 AM 		Reply to: Message 19 by Trixie
11-27-2011 5:22 AM

Need evidence to even consider
Having said all that, does demonic possession even exist?
As there is no evidence for demons or possessions, I would have to say no.
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11-27-2011 12:36 PM 		Reply to: Message 17 by Buzsaw
11-26-2011 11:05 PM

Re: Historical Record
The Biblical record is a historical record. I believe famed historian Josephus regarded it as such.
So everything Josephus thought and wrote about is historical fact? He thought the apostles, their miracles, and the New Testament were part of the historical record?
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11-27-2011 11:45 PM 		Reply to: Message 29 by Buzsaw
11-27-2011 10:53 PM

Re: Other Cultures Acknowledged
It seems that most pagan activity did not involve casting out of humans as much as chasing off evil spirits and entities from a village etc.
Your reason for coming to this conclusion is?
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11-28-2011 11:37 AM 		Reply to: Message 32 by Buzsaw
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Re: Other Cultures Acknowledged
Well good to see you reasons for coming to conclusions are not based on evidence.
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So RCC are pagans?
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