Oh No, The New Awesome Primary Thread

So you have no evidence.Got it.

It's truly remarkable how the Left is capable of hallucinating the absence of evidence for facts they don't want to believe, in the face of tons of it.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

LMAO thnx for that faith the irony is priceless.

Hallucinating irony is also a wonderful skill of Leftists.

Then I hope you will provide links to the posts where you actually posted evidence and not just unsupported assertions and innuendo.

That seems a little confused, so I'll just reiterate my original point while adding a little detail. The way Europe originally opened their doors to refugees fleeing Syria and Iraq speaks to how well they have internalized the lessons of World War II (though far too little was done about traffickers and the dangerous crossing of the Aegean Sea), but once the reality set in of so many immigrants arriving near simultaneously the doors slammed shut again. The parallels of closed immigration doors to Jewish attempts to flee Europe in the years leading up to WWII are unmistakable. (It is ironic that expatriate Jewish scientists working in America were instrumental in development of the atomic bomb, and had the timing of events been different there might have been the further and much stronger irony of Hitler dying by the very bomb developed by the Jews he hated so much.)Working on plans for keeping refugees in Turkey and away from the dangerous Aegean Sea passage is a positive step, but Europe should not write themselves out of a significant role and just let Turkey handle the problem, because there lies the risk of camps that threaten survival.And the immigration doors out of Turkey, Syria and Iraq should not be shut. As countries decide how much to open their doors they should not ignore what are very real concerns for safety and domestic tranquility, but neither can they abandon overarching moral principles when fellow humans are in obvious need.--Percy

There is a much larger issue that so far is simply not being discussed that I am aware of and that is the general issue of refugees. This is not just European but will be a world wide concern as populations get displaced by rising sea levels, crop failures, natural disasters and violence. Even if we just look at internal USofA domestic issues it is very likely we will have to address millions of displaced Americans over the next half century.

You can also point out that large immigration instances has been a good thing 19 out of 20 times in history, the economy improved 19 out of 20 times.But keeping it real nobody wants anyone to immigrate ilegali, or without any checks, Given today's technology you can put the dna and fingerprints of any immigrant from those troubled regions on file, and do your best to check he is who he says he is and is from where he says he is. But no one reasonable is expecting such checks would weed out 100% of unwanted s. But people there are fleeing war and famine its our moral duty to help our fellow humans so its a risk we have to take.

I think it speaks more to the totally ignorant and suicidal Political Correctness that has enslaved Europe, rendering them incapable of reasoned self-defense, rather than genuine historically informed compassion. Compassion has to be intelligent. Not much intelligence running this show at all. As I recall the Jews had to return to their countries where they were systematically exterminated. The current refugees are housed in refugee camps, not returning to their countries. As I said, refugee camps aren't great places but they are at least away from the immediate threat they are fleeing.The situation is also not parallel in that there was no threat of violence from the Jewish refugees, their religion doesn't advocate murdering Americans or Christians or anybody, or taking over the world, and their culture is rational and civilized. They were turned away because of inflexible immigration policies of the time. In the case of the Muslim refugees, like it or not their culture and their religion are potential dangers to the West. This is an entirely different situation and it calls for great wisdom. I'm glad to hear there are Christian workers going among them to help and identify potential problems. If you had any realistic sense of the mentality of Islam you might realize that dealing with this situation in a wise and humanitarian way is a monumental problem needing a LOT of time and wisdom.Meanwhile at least note that they are not being sent back to their original countries as the Jews were.ABE: THe others who have mentioned refugee problems in general are also not taking note of differences between different cultures. Jews, Asians, Hindus, etc., are not problems to the West. It is specifically the Muslims that have to be considered potential problems because they are taught by their religion not to assimilate but to seek by different means to overthrow all nonMuslim cultures. The political correctness that requires us to deny this reality is pure suicide.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Do you have any evidence that Muslim immigrants commit violent acts at a rate higher than any other demographic group?

You seem to be as ignorant of their religion as you are of your own.

I shouldn't need any more evidence than I've already given.Why are you talking about violent acts when what you quoted was about how Islam leaches against assimilation and eventual overthrow of nations?If you all ventured away from the standard politically correct leftist media into, say, Jewish and Christian sources, or read a book like the one I've mentioned here, Philistine, by Ramon Bennett, or perhaps The Blood of the Moon by George Grant, or The Arab Mind by John Laffin, and another by the same title by Raphael Patai and a number of others on the subject of Islam, you wouldn't need a poster on EvC to give you the evidence for these things. I've given quite a bit of evidence here as it is that is just nitpicked to pieces because of the general PC brainwashing. However, I may yet be able to assemble some from the book I am reading and start a thread on it. It's tedious because it involves copying out quotes and all the footnotes to them.The demand for evidence at EvC is nothing but a PC smear in the end, it's not about evidence at all. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

That is a staggering piece of self-delusion.

Then maybe you should sit down.

But it is about evidence Faith. Assertions like "Islam leaches against assimilation and eventual overthrow of nations" are not evidence.Even if you meant "teaches" it is no evidence, it's just unsupported assertions.