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Nonsense. I just agreed with you that a young event uplifted the Kaibab Plateau. In fact, I'm glad that I can't. My ideas are constrained by facts.Your viewpoint seems to be that since we can't really imagine your flood setting that you can just make stuff up and we have to agree. We are not talking about a lake with some suspended sediments.

Not at all.There is plenty of evidence for earlier deformation, first of the Vishnu Schist and later, the tilting of the GC Supergroup.As far as igneous activity, we have the intrusion of the Zoroaster Granite and the Cardenas basalt at different times and long before regional uplift started.On top of that we have evidence of erosion with several disconformities within the Paleozoic section.In the meantime we have all manner of evidence for tectonism occurring elsewhere in the world while the Colorado Plateau area was relatively quiet. The Appalacians started forming as early as the Ordovician time, for instance, and there is evidence of multiple deformations over a billion years ago on the Canadian shield.To any reasonable person this makes your scenario untenable.

The only evidence you have provided is not diagnostic of your scenario. Several of your points make no sense. There is no evidence of detachment along the Great Unconformity, for instance. You cannot support such a notion. All I can say is that there is no evidence of a flood of the type you suggest. And saying that we really don't know, is just an argument from ignorance. Okay, how long will gravel stay suspended in a lake?

I just gave you evidence in multiple deformation events, multiple igneous events, multiple erosional events and various ages of mountain building events ... and this is all you can say?I also asked you how long gravel would be suspended in a lake. You have ignored my question.

"Some"?You spin so fast that Tesla probably has a research opening for you.

Then explain how it gets mixed in with the other 'flood' strata.

An example, please.I hope you're not saying what I think you are saying....

Then why do they have the bedforms of sand dunes?

I suppose you have some evidence for such 'waves'? Sure. But, essentially, you are talking about extreme velocities and saltation.Do you really think that such things would leave no evidence behind?On what surface would gravel be transported? The pre-flood surface or the surface formed by the previous 'wave'? That's the nature of inquiry. You create a hypothesis and then test it by looking for evidence. That necessarily involves details.

So, it doesn't matter that an eolian deposit occurs in the middle of a global flood?I'm sorry, but that's just plain weird. Well, maybe the 'form of the strata' is not important in contrasting environments. I think that most of us are talking in the context of evidence for or against your flood. The fact that some rocks are eolian in origin would be kind of important.

Well, there is that ...

But what if the form looks the same from a distance, but different from close-up?In much of the Navajo, I don't see large-scale cross beds from a distance and yet, on close examination, they are present. Are you telling us that this is not important?And I'm still curious about your statement that the Navajo 'just ran out of sand'. What do you mean and what is your evidence for this?

Except for the fact that you cannot explain the occurrence of gravel deposits such as the Diamond Peak Conglomerate or the Fountain Formation, etc., etc.But mainstream science can explain it, and does. Well, that hasn't happened so far, so your celebration of the preeminence of flood geology is not warranted. And it looks like you have a long way to go.

Or 'form' is not diagnostic of any particular origin of a rock formation.What if I showed you tabular coal beds with the same form as sandstone beds? Would you say that they formed the same way??And by the way, you should provide us with some kind of support for your statements about the Coconino and Navajo etc. Just saying that you know it is not evidence.

Okay, then, please tell us your evidence that coal seams were transported to any degree.