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Big_Al35
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Message 406 of 429 (776168)
01-09-2016 5:48 PM
Reply to: Message 401 by Tangle
01-09-2016 5:00 AM


Tangle writes:

Sure but we know the mean and SD of 'normal' populations of humans in different environments. So we know the mean for H.sapiens is 1.75m (or whatever) and that 95% of skeletons will be +/- 10cm (or whatever) of that.

See, you guys are just as capable of using google as I am.

Edited by Big_Al35, : No reason given.


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Message 407 of 429 (776169)
01-09-2016 5:51 PM
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01-09-2016 5:23 PM


Or even just define what a globalist is.

Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.


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Message 408 of 429 (776170)
01-09-2016 5:53 PM
Reply to: Message 406 by Big_Al35
01-09-2016 5:48 PM


Big Al writes:

See, you guys are as just as capable of using google as I am.

If I'd used google, I would have used the actual values, not approximations that I'd made up - you know, the clue was 'whatever'.

Are you really as dumb as you make out or is this a wind-up?


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Message 409 of 429 (776171)
01-09-2016 5:55 PM
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01-09-2016 5:08 PM


Well if you were a globalist, what would be the best way to supress genuine photos of giants?

Why should "globalists" care a whit about giants?

A creative competition such as the worth1000 encouraging outrageous images and fakery. These fake images can then be circulated and promoted. Soon they will be as numerous as the genuine shots and nobody except the experts will be able to distinguish between them. Anyone with a genuine shot can then be silenced or brow beaten and the 'so called authorities' can claim it was fake all along like all the rest. Yet another globalist strategy.

Nonsense.

As for those photos, it is easy to tell they are normal human skeletons photoshopped or otherwise manipulated to change the perceived scale.

If you simply stretch a human skeleton from 5.5 feet to 12 feet in height you run into the cube/square problem. Just one example, is the ankle. The Achilles tendon is not strong enough to support the weight of a 12 foot skeleton in the position it is in in a 5.5 foot skeleton. The talus needs to be moved forward in the foot, creating a greater lever for the tendon so that it can handle the extra weight. Also, many other bones need to be larger and differently proportioned for the same reason--these same problems would apply throughout the skeleton, but we don't see the necessary changes in these fake skeletons. (This is one of the ways to identify fake bigfoot prints as well--the same cube/square mechanical problems would apply to the 8-10 foot bodies bigfoot is supposed to have as it would to a 12 foot one, though perhaps to a lesser degree.)

So, next time you look at one of those "giant" skeletons look to see if the bones are proportioned for a 5.5 foot individual and just scaled up.


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Message 410 of 429 (776173)
01-09-2016 5:58 PM
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01-09-2016 5:55 PM


And by actually looking at the data of the pictures we can tell they have been photoshopped. In the digital age everything leaves a fingerprint.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.


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Message 411 of 429 (776174)
01-09-2016 6:06 PM
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01-09-2016 5:08 PM


... what would be the best way to supress genuine photos of giants? A creative competition such as the worth1000 encouraging outrageous images and fakery. These fake images can then be circulated and promoted. Soon they will be as numerous as the genuine shots and nobody except the experts will be able to distinguish between them. ...

So the best way to counter the giant hoax that perpetuates the myth of giants is to purposefully make fake photos and articles about giants existing ...

Fascinating.


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Message 412 of 429 (776182)
01-09-2016 7:03 PM
Reply to: Message 404 by Big_Al35
01-09-2016 5:08 PM


Well if you were a globalist, what would be the best way to supress genuine photos of giants?

Along those same lines a person advocating for the existence of giants but unable to to produce evidence or argue coherently would be the best way for the globalists to suppress real researchers of giants. obviously Big_Al35 is a globalist patsy.

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Message 413 of 429 (776194)
01-09-2016 10:10 PM
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01-09-2016 7:03 PM


Well if you were a globalist, what would be the best way to supress genuine photos of giants?

Along those same lines a person advocating for the existence of giants but unable to to produce evidence or argue coherently would be the best way for the globalists to suppress real researchers of giants. obviously Big_Al35 is a globalist patsy.

It makes perfect sense doesn't it? He has already shown us that he knows what the globalist plans are AND his name is Big_Al35.....coincidence? I think not.


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Message 414 of 429 (776196)
01-09-2016 10:40 PM
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01-09-2016 5:23 PM


Al, do you actually have any evidence that there is such a thing as a globalist?

If there were globalists they'd conceal the evidence for giants, you must at least concede that. And have you seen any evidence for giants? Well then.


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Message 415 of 429 (776197)
01-09-2016 10:46 PM
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01-09-2016 10:40 PM


Ah, yes. If the evidence for giants really did get out it would certainly derail the plans to ... to ... to...

I missed something. Exactly which of our their plans will it derail?


Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 416 of 429 (776232)
01-10-2016 2:34 PM
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01-09-2016 5:08 PM


Big_Al35 writes:

Well if you were a globalist, what would be the best way to supress genuine photos of giants?


A better question would be, "Why would globalists want to suppress knowledge of giants?" Nobody supresses knowledge of dinosaurs or other extinct species. Why giants?

Another pertinent question would be, "Why do you think photographs of (purported) fossils have any relevance?" If the fossils exist, show us the fossils; let us examine them - figure out how old they are, etc. All photographs, whether genuine or fake, are second-rate evidence. Show us the real thing.


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Message 417 of 429 (776249)
01-10-2016 10:22 PM
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01-10-2016 2:34 PM


If the fossils exist, show us the fossils; let us examine them - figure out how old they are, etc. All photographs, whether genuine or fake, are second-rate evidence. Show us the real thing.

Obviously the fossils, those particular fossils, are in the Globalist Museum at an undisclosed location. The lack of giant fossils anywhere is proof that the Globalists have them all (at an undisclosed location).


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Message 418 of 429 (776251)
01-10-2016 10:33 PM
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01-10-2016 2:34 PM


Hi, Ringo.

ringo writes:

Another pertinent question would be, "Why do you think photographs of (purported) fossils have any relevance?" If the fossils exist, show us the fossils; let us examine them - figure out how old they are, etc. All photographs, whether genuine or fake, are second-rate evidence. Show us the real thing.

I don't know about you, but personally, I think I'm better at identifying fake photographs than I am at identifying fake fossils; so I'm not at all confident that showing me the fossils would be a viable route toward progress.


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Big_Al35
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Message 419 of 429 (776266)
01-11-2016 9:38 AM
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01-10-2016 2:34 PM


ringo writes:

A better question would be, "Why would globalists want to suppress knowledge of giants?" Nobody supresses knowledge of dinosaurs or other extinct species. Why giants?

Imagine the globalists have plans A, B, C, D, E and F. Now imagine that plan F was to supress all knowledge of giants. It's hard to understand why they would want to do that isn't it?

But if you have an inkling of what other globalist plans there are on the table it might be easier to believe that they want to proceed with plan F too. I know you are now going to ask me 'what are their other plans'? Well if you were to ask me that question it suggests to me that you have no idea of ANY globalist plans. Heck, some have even asked me what the hell a globalist is.

This says to me that you need to do some background reading first. I can't and more importantly won't do this for you. Some here would like it if I spoon fed them all the data but sadly that's not going to happen. Others might already have the information and some won't lift so much as a finger to find out. That's up to them.

So the ball is pretty much in your court. If you don't know what a globalist is - YOU need to find out. If you don't know ANY of their plans - YOU need to find out. And if you don't want to find out - I couldn't give a monkeys.


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Message 420 of 429 (776268)
01-11-2016 9:51 AM
Reply to: Message 419 by Big_Al35
01-11-2016 9:38 AM


So the ball is pretty much in your court. If you don't know what a globalist is - YOU need to find out. If you don't know ANY of their plans - YOU need to find out. And if you don't want to find out - I couldn't give a monkeys.

Good, so your attempt to derail the topic and bury it under a blanket of nonsense is done.

We have the fossils, and they show clear evidence of evolution on a grand scale spanning billions of years with a global continuous pattern of development within the spatial temporal matrix, consilient with all other sciences.

If there is a "globalist" conspiracy it is this: science confirms evolution, science confirms that the earth is very very old, science confirms that the universe is even older and still expanding, and there is no methodology no alternate narrative that has the consistency of results and the consistency of evidence.

We don't have just the fossils, we have the weight of objective empirical evidence from all sciences.

Enjoy


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