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caffeine
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Message 376 of 464 (775562)
01-02-2016 5:04 PM
Reply to: Message 374 by Big_Al35
01-02-2016 4:13 PM


Why do you trust the information provided by the globalists without question?

It's not a matter of accepting that the picture is an accurate representation. The point is that if you do not believe humans can move rocks of such size, then you believe there were giants moving rocks in the 18th century, not only in the ancient past.

And I notice youhaven't even mentioned the giant tools. Why not?

Probably because this is the first time you have mentioned them. Seems to make more sense to dicuss the silly ideas you propose, instead of picking any old silly idea at random.


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Dr Adequate
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Message 377 of 464 (775578)
01-02-2016 8:45 PM
Reply to: Message 374 by Big_Al35
01-02-2016 4:13 PM


Why do you trust the information provided by the globalists without question?

If you mean, why am I not ignoring all the available evidence so as to retreat into a fantasy world of my own devising, it's because I'm not stark raving mad.

And I notice you haven't even mentioned the giant tools. Why not?

What are you talking about? You haven't even mentioned them. That was the first use of the word "tools" on this thread, and it's to complain that I haven't mentioned them?

Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.


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Message 378 of 464 (775598)
01-03-2016 5:53 AM
Reply to: Message 377 by Dr Adequate
01-02-2016 8:45 PM


Dr Adequate writes:

What are you talking about? You haven't even mentioned them. That was the first use of the word "tools" on this thread, and it's to complain that I haven't mentioned them?

There are plenty of sites which mention giant utensils. A proper study on the subject would at least discuss their authenticity but your omission is interesting. And if you claim to have an interest in paleontology or history or science then I am sure you would be aware of them.

But then why would you bring them up. The strategy here has always been to dispatch with a nuisance forum member as quickly, and efficiently as possible. In this spirit it would make sense that you form a battle front with lines of defence each serving a different purpose but each one becoming increasingly more ruthless. I am no military expert but I would imagine your processing of a difficult forum member might follow these guidelines.

1) Never volunteer any information - let them volunteer information
2) Never make proposals - let them make proposals
3) Never offer evidence - let them offer evidence

Once the victim has volunteered, proposed or offered you can then go on the offensive with

1) It doesn't exist
2) It's fake
3) Nit pick the minutiae of their posts and attempt to tear it apart.
4) I don't know what you're talking about
5) You are a buffoon or stark raving mad.
6) Launch personal attacks.
7) Turn the whole debate into a debacle using comedy, innuendo, false flags and strawman tactics.

Nice work guys. You are doing a fine job on the front line.

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Message 379 of 464 (775599)
01-03-2016 6:24 AM
Reply to: Message 378 by Big_Al35
01-03-2016 5:53 AM


There are plenty of sites which mention giant tools. A proper study on the subject would at least discuss their authenticity but your omission is interesting. And if you claim to have an interest in paleontology or history or science then I am sure you would be aware of them.

But then why would you bring them up. The strategy here has always been to dispatch with a nuisance forum member as quickly, and efficiently as possible. In this spirit it would make sense that you form a battle front with lines of defence each serving a different purpose but each one becoming increasingly more ruthless. I am no military expert but I would imagine your processing of a difficult forum member might follow these guidelines.

1) Never volunteer any information - let them volunteer information
2) Never make proposals - let them make proposals
3) Never offer evidence - let them offer evidence

Once the victim has volunteered, proposed or offered you can then go on the offensive with

1) It doesn't exist
2) It's fake
3) I don't know what you're talking about
4) You are a buffoon or stark raving mad.

Nice work guys. You are doing a fine job on the front line.

That you keep droning on about mythical giants and globalist conspiracies, along with your insistence that you don't have to provide any evidence for your outlandish theories while simultaneously demanding to be believed at face value alone, means that you're not here to have a serious debate.

You should come to expect the reactions you've received.


"Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine

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Message 380 of 464 (775616)
01-03-2016 8:48 AM
Reply to: Message 378 by Big_Al35
01-03-2016 5:53 AM


There are plenty of sites which mention giant tools. A proper study on the subject would at least discuss their authenticity but your omission is interesting. And if you claim to have an interest in paleontology or history or science then I am sure you would be aware of them.

Prove it. List those sites with references to the literature.
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Dr Adequate
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Message 381 of 464 (775622)
01-03-2016 10:04 AM
Reply to: Message 378 by Big_Al35
01-03-2016 5:53 AM


There are plenty of sites which mention giant tools. A proper study on the subject would at least discuss their authenticity but your omission is interesting.

But not as interesting as your omission. Here you are supposedly arguing for the existence of giants, and yet you never mentioned these giant tools. Are you one of ... the globalists? What else are you hiding?


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Message 382 of 464 (775624)
01-03-2016 10:47 AM
Reply to: Message 381 by Dr Adequate
01-03-2016 10:04 AM


Well, let's start with Big Al's screen name. It may be open to interpretation as meaning that Big Al is himself a giant tool. And maybe even a globalist - our planet is, after all, pretty large.
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Message 383 of 464 (775626)
01-03-2016 11:25 AM


Proof at last!


  
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Message 384 of 464 (775633)
01-03-2016 1:59 PM
Reply to: Message 378 by Big_Al35
01-03-2016 5:53 AM


There are plenty of sites which mention giant utensils. A proper study on the subject would at least discuss their authenticity but your omission is interesting. And if you claim to have an interest in paleontology or history or science then I am sure you would be aware of them.

Seriously,

This thing with giants seems to be your hobby. This stuff has been exposed as fraudulent a long time ago. If you think there is some evidence that it is not, then you are going to have to present it.

) Never offer evidence - let them offer evidence

Yet another excuse for not handling your part of the conversation. There is no evidence. There is just BS on a web page.


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King

If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams


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Message 385 of 464 (775665)
01-03-2016 8:27 PM
Reply to: Message 378 by Big_Al35
01-03-2016 5:53 AM


There are plenty of sites which mention giant utensils.

HBD

*** Who would of thought there would be a meme about giant utensils???


Whoever calls me ignorant shares my own opinion. Sorrowfully and tacitly I recognize my ignorance, when I consider how much I lack of what my mind in its craving for knowledge is sighing for... I console myself with the consideration that this belongs to our common nature. - Francesco Petrarca

"Nothing is easier than to persuade people who want to be persuaded and already believe." - another Petrarca gem.

Ignorance is a most formidable opponent rivaled only by arrogance; but when the two join forces, one is all but invincible.


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Big_Al35
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Message 386 of 464 (775874)
01-06-2016 9:17 AM


Once the victim has volunteered, proposed or offered you can then go on the offensive with

1) It doesn't exist
2) It's fake
3) Nit pick the minutiae of their posts and attempt to tear it apart.
4) I don't know what you're talking about
5) You are a buffoon or stark raving mad.
6) Launch personal attacks.
7) Turn the whole debate into a debacle using comedy, innuendo, false flags and strawman tactics.

Did I miss anything of the list?


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Message 387 of 464 (775876)
01-06-2016 10:09 AM
Reply to: Message 386 by Big_Al35
01-06-2016 9:17 AM


Evidence
"Once the victim has volunteered, proposed or offered..."

You forgot to volunteer, propose or offer any evidence.

All you need to do is present convincing evidence, and that's the one thing you have failed to do.

By the way, "evidence" doesn't mean the type of things you have presented that don't stand up to the least scrutiny. For example, you're trying to tell me normal deformed skulls are aliens of some kind when I've analyzed perhaps a thousand skeletons and have seen most kinds of cranial deformation in the western US.


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle

If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1

"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.


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Message 388 of 464 (775936)
01-06-2016 8:36 PM
Reply to: Message 386 by Big_Al35
01-06-2016 9:17 AM


Did I miss anything of the list?

Well, there's the bit where you were wrong, we proved you were wrong, you know you were wrong, so now all you have left is whining about how we proved you were wrong as though that was somehow our fault rather than your fault for being wrong.


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Message 389 of 464 (775952)
01-07-2016 4:12 AM


Thanks guys ... I think I did miss something of the list. So at number 8 we have;

Once the victim has volunteered, proposed or offered you can then go on the offensive with
1) It doesn't exist
2) It's fake
3) Nit pick the minutiae of their posts and attempt to tear it apart.
4) I don't know what you're talking about
5) You are a buffoon or stark raving mad.
6) Launch personal attacks.
7) Turn the whole debate into a debacle using comedy, innuendo, false flags and strawman tactics.
8) In all your dealings with the victim behave like a robot. Show no emotion and abide by your programming, that is to say, 'the computer says NO'.

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Message 390 of 464 (775955)
01-07-2016 6:00 AM
Reply to: Message 389 by Big_Al35
01-07-2016 4:12 AM


Hey Al, quit the fake martyr stuff and give us something to examine.

It would be great for both science and religion to find good evidence for giants. Science has nothing against giants except it hasn't found them. If and when it does, they'll be part of our Paleontological history, put in all the books and the finder will be world famous.

So let's see it.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien.

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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