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Author Topic:   Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia's dead. The maneuvering begins!
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Message 19 of 122 (778014)
02-14-2016 2:23 PM


So many lists and numbers and all for naught. These things may have meant something in the past when the Senate was populated by statesmen who saw their duty to do the best for the nation and get an appointment set for the court's coming term. That hasn't been the case for more than 20 years +.
The Senate is populated by partisan warriors out to obstruct the other party, especially when it occupies the White House.
To the Republicans in the Senate, their view of what is best for the nation is to bet on the come, hold any nomination in abeyance, and hope they can get a Scalia junior on the bench next year. That leaves a court of 8 justices with a decidedly liberal lean but, with the right person in the White House, that can be rectified by early February 2017 before most of the major cases come up for argument.

  
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Message 92 of 122 (780563)
03-16-2016 5:57 PM
Reply to: Message 91 by Percy
03-16-2016 1:51 PM


Re: Obama Announces Nomination for Scalia's Replacement
The Senate Republican leadership is abdicating its responsibility to the future congress and will not consider this nomination.
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I simply ask Republicans in the Senate to give him a fair hearing, and then an up-or-down vote, Mr. Obama said. If you don’t, then it will not only be an abdication of the Senate’s constitutional duty, it will indicate a process for nominating and confirming judges that is beyond repair.
But later in the day the Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, called Judge Garland and said that the Senate would not take action on his nomination.
Mr. McConnell also informed Judge Garland that they would not be meeting in person at the Capitol on Thursday.
Rather than put Judge Garland through more unnecessary political routines orchestrated by the White House, the leader decided it would be more considerate of the nominee’s time to speak with him today by phone, Mr. McConnell’s spokesman, Don Stewart, said in a statement. The leader reiterated his position that the American people will have a voice in this vacancy and that the Senate will appropriately revisit the matter when it considers the qualifications of the person the next president nominates. And since the Senate will not be acting on this nomination, he would not be holding a perfunctory meeting, but he wished Judge Garland well.
This Republican obstructionism of the Nation's judicial function is anathema to the statesmanship that characterized the US Senate for more than 200 years. This is a sad day for the republic and portends even greater malfunction of, indeed malfeasance by, this Nation's most storied deliberative body.
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Message 94 of 122 (780593)
03-17-2016 1:27 PM
Reply to: Message 93 by NoNukes
03-17-2016 12:34 PM


Re: Obama Announces Nomination for Scalia's Replacement
Working against Obama is his vote to filibuster Alito.
The Republicans could have had their revenge on Sotomayor and Kagan but they didn't. I don't think Alito has anything to do with the Republican's intransigence here. I think it's just plain broken, incompetent Republican leadership afraid of the right-wingnut faction of their own party.

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Message 98 of 122 (780610)
03-17-2016 9:07 PM
Reply to: Message 97 by Theodoric
03-17-2016 8:19 PM


Re: Obama Announces Nomination for Scalia's Replacement
Yes, he was, but just barely before a cloture vote cut off the filibuster attempt. Despite not having 41 senators formally adopt the filibuster, Obama voting for, the democrats continued to delay the vote on Alito in a de facto filibuster by continuing discussion. Thus the cloture vote.
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Message 100 of 122 (780622)
03-17-2016 10:33 PM
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03-17-2016 10:19 PM


Re: Obama Announces Nomination for Scalia's Replacement
I think my updated post crossed paths with your post.
Confusion reigns.
Sorry.

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Message 103 of 122 (780634)
03-18-2016 2:43 AM
Reply to: Message 96 by Diomedes
03-17-2016 2:12 PM


A Game Plan
You read it here first.
The Republicans do nothing pending the results of Nov. 8.
If the Republican nominee wins election then the Senate continues to do nothing until after the new President selects his nominee in January/February. I see as highly unlikely the Republicans winning the Oval Office and losing the Senate at the same time. That's not going to happen so ignore it.
If the Democrats retain the White House then we have some game space.
If the senate is left in Republican hands then the Republicans will move to confirm Garland before the 114th Congress ends on Jan 3, 2017, so they won't have a greater fight on their hands from an equally qualified but less politically palatable nominee by the new President.
If the senate changes to majority Democrat then I expect the Senate Republicans to try to rush a Garland nominee to confirmation before the nomination can be withdrawn and the new Congress comes into session on Jan 3. and the new Democrat senate takes its place.
Here's the ego question: Does Obama withdraw the Garland nomination Nov 9th, leaving Clinton to name her choice? I think if the senate changes party the pressure to do so will be quite strong.

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Message 105 of 122 (780641)
03-18-2016 10:19 AM
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03-18-2016 9:38 AM


Re: Obama Announces Nomination for Scalia's Replacement
What a stupid stupid argument.
Welcome to the USA!

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